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- I noted Heritage will have a large section of Pattern 5C pieces coming up in Nov and Jan Auctions. While most are of lower grades, it appears that many High R7 pieces or seldom seen. Does anyone know the back story on the collection/collector?I noted Heritage will have a large section of Pattern 5C pieces coming up in Nov and Jan Auctions. While most are of lower grades, it appears that many High R7 pieces or seldom seen. Does anyone know the back story on the collection/collector?2 Comments 0 Shares 464 ViewsPlease log in to like, share and comment!Commenting is disabled.
- Since no one jump in with any comments I will just answer my own question - I learned more since I posted the question 4 months ago. The 2 Heritage auctions were held with a large consignment of pattern nickels (one in Nov 2024 and a 2nd one just completed in Jan 2025 - the Fun auction). The majority of the pattern nickels appeared from the the collection of Wayne Wilcox. These were either own by Julian Leidman or were consigned through him. Some of you may have known Wayne and what I could find on the internet he appeared well known in the Maryland area, active in the local coin club and had passed way in 2016. Julian had this inventory since at least 2016 posted on his ebay store and then on his own web site. I had actually purchase one 5C pattern back in 2016 directly from Julian. Over the years I did approach Julian on several other pieces but we could not reach agreement on a price and I would just pass. I did pick up several of the pieces in the recent auctions - only limited by my free cash flow. I might have bid on others, ( many were seldom seen and R.8 pieces) that I would liked to have owned - just had to pick my interest. The collection that Wayne Wilcox assembled would have been a registry ALL STAR.Since no one jump in with any comments I will just answer my own question - I learned more since I posted the question 4 months ago. The 2 Heritage auctions were held with a large consignment of pattern nickels (one in Nov 2024 and a 2nd one just completed in Jan 2025 - the Fun auction). The majority of the pattern nickels appeared from the the collection of Wayne Wilcox. These were either own by Julian Leidman or were consigned through him. Some of you may have known Wayne and what I could find on the internet he appeared well known in the Maryland area, active in the local coin club and had passed way in 2016. Julian had this inventory since at least 2016 posted on his ebay store and then on his own web site. I had actually purchase one 5C pattern back in 2016 directly from Julian. Over the years I did approach Julian on several other pieces but we could not reach agreement on a price and I would just pass. I did pick up several of the pieces in the recent auctions - only limited by my free cash flow. I might have bid on others, ( many were seldom seen and R.8 pieces) that I would liked to have owned - just had to pick my interest. The collection that Wayne Wilcox assembled would have been a registry ALL STAR.
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- retirednow It was a very nice group of pattern coins. I specialize in pattern Liberty nickels and bought a few of the coins for my set.[retirednow] It was a very nice group of pattern coins. I specialize in pattern Liberty nickels and bought a few of the coins for my set.
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- I've just added a set "Retirednow 1858 FE & Indian Head Short Set" (Flying Eagle and Indian Cent Patterns, Short Set, 1858).I've just added a set [set:5c03bade-8ca7-11ef-8e6e-0660ea78a99b].0 Comments 0 Shares 275 Views
- tying to add inventory but message said already in inventory .. but I do not see it ? Need help from Mycollect cert #40276309tying to add inventory but message said already in inventory .. but I do not see it ? Need help from Mycollect cert #402763097 Comments 0 Shares 1255 ViewsCommenting is disabled.
- Thanks Tony ...will do. Little surprised I could find a typical help request for Mycollect on the home page ... maybe there is one but not evident to me.Thanks Tony ...will do. Little surprised I could find a typical help request for Mycollect on the home page ... maybe there is one but not evident to me.
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- I've just acquired this Pattern 1880 $1 J-1655 NGC Proof-65 BN.I've just acquired this [coin:305b7ed4-5d82-11ef-bdbb-060e37a4c43f].0 Comments 0 Shares 321 Views
- I've just acquired this Pattern 1880 $1 J-1645 NGC Proof-63.I've just acquired this [coin:19dc1552-5d82-11ef-bdbb-060e37a4c43f].0 Comments 0 Shares 321 Views
- I've just acquired this Pattern 1879 $1 J-1622 NGC Proof-63.I've just acquired this [coin:09a1a9bc-5d82-11ef-bdbb-060e37a4c43f].0 Comments 0 Shares 321 Views
- I've just acquired this Pattern 1879 $1 J-1619 NGC Proof-65 BN.I've just acquired this [coin:f2036f4a-5d81-11ef-bdbb-060e37a4c43f].0 Comments 0 Shares 314 Views
- I've added these coins to my inventory:
• Pattern 1878 $1 J-1557 PCGS Proof-60 (CAC Green)
• Pattern 1879 $1 J-1617 PCGS Proof-62
• Pattern 1879 $1 J-1626 PCGS Proof-62
• Pattern 1879 $1 J-1623 PCGS Proof-63 BN
• Pattern 1880 $1 J-1652 PCGS Proof-63 BN (CAC Green)
• Pattern 1878 $1 J-1563 PCGS Proof-63
• Pattern 1880 $1 J-1650 PCGS Proof-65 CAMEO
• Pattern 1879 $1 J-1631 PCGS Proof-65
• Pattern 1878 $1 J-1562 PCGS Proof-67 RB (CAC Green)
• Pattern 1879 $1 J-1628 PCGS Proof-67+ RB
• Pattern 1879 $1 J-1632 PCGS Proof-64 BN (CAC Green)
• Pattern 1879 $1 J-1620 PCGS Proof-65
• Pattern 1880 $1 J-1649 PCGS Proof-65 RB
• Pattern 1879 $1 J-1618 PCGS Proof-65 (CAC Green)
• Pattern 1878 $1 J-1559 PCGS Proof-66 RB
• Pattern 1880 $1 J-1654 PCGS Proof-66
• Pattern 1880 $1 J-1646 PCGS Proof-66 RB
I've added these coins to my inventory: • [coin:0e13f1a3-5d74-11ef-bdbb-060e37a4c43f] • [coin:0e145423-5d74-11ef-bdbb-060e37a4c43f] • [coin:0e1496de-5d74-11ef-bdbb-060e37a4c43f] • [coin:0e14f01e-5d74-11ef-bdbb-060e37a4c43f] • [coin:0e150f12-5d74-11ef-bdbb-060e37a4c43f] • [coin:0e15441d-5d74-11ef-bdbb-060e37a4c43f] • [coin:0e157e2e-5d74-11ef-bdbb-060e37a4c43f] • [coin:0e15a693-5d74-11ef-bdbb-060e37a4c43f] • [coin:0e15c4b6-5d74-11ef-bdbb-060e37a4c43f] • [coin:0e15e096-5d74-11ef-bdbb-060e37a4c43f] • [coin:0e15faab-5d74-11ef-bdbb-060e37a4c43f] • [coin:0e161320-5d74-11ef-bdbb-060e37a4c43f] • [coin:0e162e51-5d74-11ef-bdbb-060e37a4c43f] • [coin:0e1646df-5d74-11ef-bdbb-060e37a4c43f] • [coin:0e166069-5d74-11ef-bdbb-060e37a4c43f] • [coin:0e16795d-5d74-11ef-bdbb-060e37a4c43f] • [coin:0e16914d-5d74-11ef-bdbb-060e37a4c43f]0 Comments 0 Shares 325 Views - I have the itching to post another composite pattern set I just completed. The nice draw of patterns for me is the many subsets one can focus on to collect. Nice little goals to keep my interest. The photo below represent a set of Goloid Dollars struck in copper. Of the 11 die parings of goloid's dollars struck in 1878, 1879 and 1880, 10 of these parings were struck in copper (besides the Goloid and Aluminum examples). Earlier this year I picked up my last piece that filled in my 10 piece type set. I love the look of the Morgan's coiled hair and the Bun hair liberty design along with the history for these patterns.I have the itching to post another composite pattern set I just completed. The nice draw of patterns for me is the many subsets one can focus on to collect. Nice little goals to keep my interest. The photo below represent a set of Goloid Dollars struck in copper. Of the 11 die parings of goloid's dollars struck in 1878, 1879 and 1880, 10 of these parings were struck in copper (besides the Goloid and Aluminum examples). Earlier this year I picked up my last piece that filled in my 10 piece type set. I love the look of the Morgan's coiled hair and the Bun hair liberty design along with the history for these patterns.
2 Comments 0 Shares 960 Views - Seems to me that us pattern collectors do not chatter very much, which is not a bad thing, however I am going to boast a little here.
I Just received my 5C Pattern J-634 from the last Simpson FUN Auction conducted by Heritage.
I make note of this as it is the 2nd to last piece I needed to complete a series of Small Denomination pattern sets of 1868/1869 that I had been assembling. I have been able to collect samples of both Nickel and copper to showcase the attempt of the mint standardize small denominations (1C, 3C and 5C) in 1868/69. Now - if I only won the 3CN in copper J619 that Dr. Bones won in the Simpson sale a couple of years ago, my story would be complete
Seems to me that us pattern collectors do not chatter very much, which is not a bad thing, however I am going to boast a little here. I Just received my 5C Pattern J-634 from the last Simpson FUN Auction conducted by Heritage. I make note of this as it is the 2nd to last piece I needed to complete a series of Small Denomination pattern sets of 1868/1869 that I had been assembling. I have been able to collect samples of both Nickel and copper to showcase the attempt of the mint standardize small denominations (1C, 3C and 5C) in 1868/69. Now - if I only won the 3CN in copper J619 that Dr. Bones won in the Simpson sale a couple of years ago, my story would be complete 😊4 Comments 0 Shares 838 Views - A few of the pieces form The Estate of Charles W. Montgomery rolled into the recent December Heritage auction and I did pick up another of the collection, a J653 … a 1$ Gold pattern stuck in Aluminum. Not a high-end piece but fairly rare. Saul with Uspatterns.com identified 6 examples so far which would make this Judd a High R7 vs the low R7 noted in the Judd reference book. https://uspatterns.store.turbify.net/j653p726.html While most of the 1868 Aluminum sets have now been broken up, Bill Rue’s pattern sale database recorded the 1st 1868 Aluminum set being auctioned in Ebenezer Mason’s Oct 1870 sale, however there was a single 1$ pieced also auction at the time. I am not sure what to make of the apparent die rust on the reverse which might imply this was a later restrike or just a aluminum planchet issue as minted or from over time?
A few of the pieces form The Estate of Charles W. Montgomery rolled into the recent December Heritage auction and I did pick up another of the collection, a J653 … a 1$ Gold pattern stuck in Aluminum. Not a high-end piece but fairly rare. Saul with Uspatterns.com identified 6 examples so far which would make this Judd a High R7 vs the low R7 noted in the Judd reference book. https://uspatterns.store.turbify.net/j653p726.html While most of the 1868 Aluminum sets have now been broken up, Bill Rue’s pattern sale database recorded the 1st 1868 Aluminum set being auctioned in Ebenezer Mason’s Oct 1870 sale, however there was a single 1$ pieced also auction at the time. I am not sure what to make of the apparent die rust on the reverse which might imply this was a later restrike or just a aluminum planchet issue as minted or from over time?
2 Comments 0 Shares 917 ViewsCommenting is disabled.- The 1868 Aluminum set sold for $108.50 by Mason on 10/4/1870. Subsequently was re-catalogued and placed for sale on 2/16/1871 by Mason with each coin being sold either individually or as a set . All lots were passed. Interestingly, the 7/28/1881 Chapman sale and the 2/16/1882 H. G. Sampson sale state that only 5 sets were produced. In the 3c pattern world, there are 6 trime aluminum patterns that I have identifed potentially but there may be an opportunity to consolidate to 5 as old catalog pictures are suspicious but not conclusive that what is listed as 2 different coins may be one. There are 8 3c nickel patterns known. In the Lyman Low 6/28/1887 Linderman collection (past Mint director) had sets and individual coins. So perhaps not unusual a singleton existing out of a set. Evidently he was known to have coins struck to his desire. As it turns out the 1868 Aluminum sets and individual coins were confiscated by the US Government as they were not authorized perhaps suggesting a later re-striking by Linderman. They did not show up in the subsequent re-sale of the Linderman collection by Scott Stamp and coin in 1888The 1868 Aluminum set sold for $108.50 by Mason on 10/4/1870. Subsequently was re-catalogued and placed for sale on 2/16/1871 by Mason with each coin being sold either individually or as a set . All lots were passed. Interestingly, the 7/28/1881 Chapman sale and the 2/16/1882 H. G. Sampson sale state that only 5 sets were produced. In the 3c pattern world, there are 6 trime aluminum patterns that I have identifed potentially but there may be an opportunity to consolidate to 5 as old catalog pictures are suspicious but not conclusive that what is listed as 2 different coins may be one. There are 8 3c nickel patterns known. In the Lyman Low 6/28/1887 Linderman collection (past Mint director) had sets and individual coins. So perhaps not unusual a singleton existing out of a set. Evidently he was known to have coins struck to his desire. As it turns out the 1868 Aluminum sets and individual coins were confiscated by the US Government as they were not authorized perhaps suggesting a later re-striking by Linderman. They did not show up in the subsequent re-sale of the Linderman collection by Scott Stamp and coin in 1888
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- I noted USpatterns.com just added a consolidated price list of patterns from Heritage’s Nov 16/17 Dallas auction.
https://uspatterns.com/heno20sa2.html https://uspatterns.com/heno20sa2.html auction.
A majority were from the Charles Montgomery estate and exhibited a nice collection of off-metal gold patterns. I was able to win a couple of the patterns that I had my eye on in prior auctions of Bass and Simpson and please I was able to win them at the level I was willing to bid. I presume most of patterns may have been assembled about 20 + years ago as several had the Bass (1999) pedigree as well as Pittman and not appeared in auctions since 2000 or so.
I made the comment a few months back that I completed a 6 piece set of “GOD OUR TRUST“ Eagle patterns in copper that took years to assemble and then Heritage started to load this set up onto their site. Montgomery’s collection had many of these samples that included duplicate in Gilt.
Over-all,I thought the collection was a nice balance of grade and scarcity that the price levels appeared reasonable. Some pieces, I thought, were even cheap when comparing to other auctions.
I wonder what other pattern collectors thought?
I noted USpatterns.com just added a consolidated price list of patterns from Heritage’s Nov 16/17 Dallas auction. https://uspatterns.com/heno20sa2.html https://uspatterns.com/heno20sa2.html auction. A majority were from the Charles Montgomery estate and exhibited a nice collection of off-metal gold patterns. I was able to win a couple of the patterns that I had my eye on in prior auctions of Bass and Simpson and please I was able to win them at the level I was willing to bid. I presume most of patterns may have been assembled about 20 + years ago as several had the Bass (1999) pedigree as well as Pittman and not appeared in auctions since 2000 or so. I made the comment a few months back that I completed a 6 piece set of “GOD OUR TRUST“ Eagle patterns in copper that took years to assemble and then Heritage started to load this set up onto their site. Montgomery’s collection had many of these samples that included duplicate in Gilt. Over-all,I thought the collection was a nice balance of grade and scarcity that the price levels appeared reasonable. Some pieces, I thought, were even cheap when comparing to other auctions. I wonder what other pattern collectors thought?6 Comments 0 Shares 1361 Views - I enjoy assembling various pattern type sets that display the various obverse / reverse motifs. I am happy that I just completed another one … a 4 piece Indian Princess 10 Cent sample set. I assemble these independent of the material they were struck in and edge types – mainly because I do not have enough life span to narrow these down.
My set is shown below and the piece I just added was a J-1077. This piece had been cleaned (I guess we like to say restored) in the few last years. It turns out this piece is a match to the Willaim Rau / Harry Bass (1999) piece as a PCGS64. In my eyes, it is 10 times improvement in eye appeal now. The Piece since In Rua hands (NGC65) has been regraded twice (once back to PCGS64 and now NGC64 6680463-005 ).
I enjoy assembling various pattern type sets that display the various obverse / reverse motifs. I am happy that I just completed another one … a 4 piece Indian Princess 10 Cent sample set. I assemble these independent of the material they were struck in and edge types – mainly because I do not have enough life span to narrow these down. My set is shown below and the piece I just added was a J-1077. This piece had been cleaned (I guess we like to say restored) in the few last years. It turns out this piece is a match to the Willaim Rau / Harry Bass (1999) piece as a PCGS64. In my eyes, it is 10 times improvement in eye appeal now. The Piece since In Rua hands (NGC65) has been regraded twice (once back to PCGS64 and now NGC64 6680463-005 ).0 Comments 0 Shares 1073 Views - Does anyone have any knowledge if either an updated Judd or Pollock type reference is being worked on or maybe just a completely new reference on patterns will be published? I had recall reading a post a couple of years back about an update was being worked? Not sure if Roger was working to publish more works on patterns?Does anyone have any knowledge if either an updated Judd or Pollock type reference is being worked on or maybe just a completely new reference on patterns will be published? I had recall reading a post a couple of years back about an update was being worked? Not sure if Roger was working to publish more works on patterns?3 Comments 0 Shares 1105 ViewsCommenting is disabled.
- I have heard of no real momentum for update on the Judd Book quite yet. In my realm of the pattern world, I will be publishing a 350 page book specific to 3C patterns that should be printed in spring . Updates rarity scale on over 50% of them, consolidates and proposes elimination of some Judd numbers and suggests additions of others based on metal testing and other researchI have heard of no real momentum for update on the Judd Book quite yet. In my realm of the pattern world, I will be publishing a 350 page book specific to 3C patterns that should be printed in spring . Updates rarity scale on over 50% of them, consolidates and proposes elimination of some Judd numbers and suggests additions of others based on metal testing and other research
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