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    Seems to me that us pattern collectors do not chatter very much, which is not a bad thing, however I am going to boast a little here.

    I Just received my 5C Pattern J-634 from the last Simpson FUN Auction conducted by Heritage.

    I make note of this as it is the 2nd to last piece I needed to complete a series of Small Denomination pattern sets of 1868/1869 that I had been assembling. I have been able to collect samples of both Nickel and copper to showcase the attempt of the mint standardize small denominations (1C, 3C and 5C) in 1868/69. Now - if I only won the 3CN in copper J619 that Dr. Bones won in the Simpson sale a couple of years ago, my story would be complete
    Seems to me that us pattern collectors do not chatter very much, which is not a bad thing, however I am going to boast a little here. I Just received my 5C Pattern J-634 from the last Simpson FUN Auction conducted by Heritage. I make note of this as it is the 2nd to last piece I needed to complete a series of Small Denomination pattern sets of 1868/1869 that I had been assembling. I have been able to collect samples of both Nickel and copper to showcase the attempt of the mint standardize small denominations (1C, 3C and 5C) in 1868/69. Now - if I only won the 3CN in copper J619 that Dr. Bones won in the Simpson sale a couple of years ago, my story would be complete 😊
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      Dr. Bones ... if one noted - I did not show the 3 blanks for the 1869 Copper Trio. partly because I was the under bidder for the Simpson 1C J667 ... However, my desire to go after that piece to start the series was diminished by the likelihood of finding a J677 3CN in Copper. US Pattern.com had noted maybe 2 appearances besides the Kagins piece in the 55- 63 time frame. Bill Rue's Pattern database did not yield any other appearances except Lot 615 in Scott & Company 12/1878 auction. Subsequent to that when I was introduced to your registry I noted that you also question the likely hood of it existences any longer. Not sure if anyone contacted Don Kagin,s to see if his father records still exist to try to confirm if it was indeed a J677. PS: Thanks for your comments about my efforts .. but I am winding down to hand full of pieces. Space is running out
      Dr. Bones ... if one noted - I did not show the 3 blanks for the 1869 Copper Trio. partly because I was the under bidder for the Simpson 1C J667 ... However, my desire to go after that piece to start the series was diminished by the likelihood of finding a J677 3CN in Copper. US Pattern.com had noted maybe 2 appearances besides the Kagins piece in the 55- 63 time frame. Bill Rue's Pattern database did not yield any other appearances except Lot 615 in Scott & Company 12/1878 auction. Subsequent to that when I was introduced to your registry I noted that you also question the likely hood of it existences any longer. Not sure if anyone contacted Don Kagin,s to see if his father records still exist to try to confirm if it was indeed a J677. PS: Thanks for your comments about my efforts .. but I am winding down to hand full of pieces. Space is running out😄
      • 2024-02-10 16:36:30
      • Dr.Bones
        retirednow These are auction records as I will have listed in my book 4/12/1877 Ed. Cogan Proof 640 .60 Catalogue Could be J-677 or J-678
        4/12/1877 Ed. Cogan Proof 655 2.00 Catalogue Could be J-677 or J-678
        12/9/1878 J.W. Scott Proof 615 .75 Catalogue Could be J-677 or J-678
        9/13/1880 John Haseltine Fine 551 .15 J.F.B. Litchfield J-677 or J-678
        11/26/1880 S.K. Harzfeld Fine 128 .20 J. Colvin Randall J-677 or J-678
        3/14/1900 Lyman Low UNC 313 1.80 Leopold Gans dented to Brand
        Could be J-677 or J-678 A very similar design to adopted design. Thick, one portion of edge sharp and dented
        9/30/1952 Kagins Proof 2125 60 Louisiana Sale uneven planchet different then regular dies but fairly close resemblance,
        uneven planchet almost twice as thick on one end as the other
        5/15/1957 Kagins Proof 2405 56 211th sale Slightly different than regular dies. Could be J-677 or J-678
        12/2/1965 Kagins Proof 2035 NS 261st sale Acquired in 1963 Slightly different then regular dies, larger flan
        Descriptions are from Kagins catalogues. they tended to be sparse and have noted errors in previous catalogs relative to patterns

        Credence is given to its existence as it had a presence in the ANS exhibit and Brand collection . It was described by Kagin in 9/52 listed as like J-676 different than regular dies with uneven planchet one side twice thickness as other. This makes it possibly the Gans/Brand specimen. The cataloging in 1957 and 1965 suggests a possible different specimen which may make sense as Brand appears to have had 2 specimens. It is also possible that the two patterns from Kagins sales were merely damaged J-678. Although none have surfaced with these descriptions. Descriptions are based on presumptions as it has never been specifically seen and cataloged with good descriptions but the Adams/Woodin description in the 1914 ANS exhibit would suggest the reverse of J-617A, 617B and proposed 676-A. It would appear from the Low catalog that this should be 19 mm versus the 17.9 for standard. Also, Brand records would suggest that at least one example was distributed to Armin Brand.
        [retirednow] These are auction records as I will have listed in my book 4/12/1877 Ed. Cogan Proof 640 .60 Catalogue Could be J-677 or J-678 4/12/1877 Ed. Cogan Proof 655 2.00 Catalogue Could be J-677 or J-678 12/9/1878 J.W. Scott Proof 615 .75 Catalogue Could be J-677 or J-678 9/13/1880 John Haseltine Fine 551 .15 J.F.B. Litchfield J-677 or J-678 11/26/1880 S.K. Harzfeld Fine 128 .20 J. Colvin Randall J-677 or J-678 3/14/1900 Lyman Low UNC 313 1.80 Leopold Gans dented to Brand Could be J-677 or J-678 A very similar design to adopted design. Thick, one portion of edge sharp and dented 9/30/1952 Kagins Proof 2125 60 Louisiana Sale uneven planchet different then regular dies but fairly close resemblance, uneven planchet almost twice as thick on one end as the other 5/15/1957 Kagins Proof 2405 56 211th sale Slightly different than regular dies. Could be J-677 or J-678 12/2/1965 Kagins Proof 2035 NS 261st sale Acquired in 1963 Slightly different then regular dies, larger flan Descriptions are from Kagins catalogues. they tended to be sparse and have noted errors in previous catalogs relative to patterns Credence is given to its existence as it had a presence in the ANS exhibit and Brand collection . It was described by Kagin in 9/52 listed as like J-676 different than regular dies with uneven planchet one side twice thickness as other. This makes it possibly the Gans/Brand specimen. The cataloging in 1957 and 1965 suggests a possible different specimen which may make sense as Brand appears to have had 2 specimens. It is also possible that the two patterns from Kagins sales were merely damaged J-678. Although none have surfaced with these descriptions. Descriptions are based on presumptions as it has never been specifically seen and cataloged with good descriptions but the Adams/Woodin description in the 1914 ANS exhibit would suggest the reverse of J-617A, 617B and proposed 676-A. It would appear from the Low catalog that this should be 19 mm versus the 17.9 for standard. Also, Brand records would suggest that at least one example was distributed to Armin Brand.
        • 2024-02-10 17:13:01
      • retirednow
        Dr.Bones Thanks for the detail analysis of the piece. Nice detective work - looking forward to your book being published. Any timing update? I will one the 1st to buy one.
        [Dr.Bones] Thanks for the detail analysis of the piece. Nice detective work - looking forward to your book being published. Any timing update? I will one the 1st to buy one.
        • 2024-02-10 20:29:51
    • Dr.Bones
      @retirednow Unfortunately it was a must need for me as well. I can only trace 5-7 examples of J-619. There have only been 6 sales of this pattern since 2000, Beside the Simpson example I bought, the last previous sales were by DLRC on ebay in 2/16, another Simpson coin by Stacks in 2012. So a hard one to find. By far the rarest of the 3C pieces you are trying to find in this category. Your collection is really growing and fun to watch the updates
      @retirednow Unfortunately it was a must need for me as well. I can only trace 5-7 examples of J-619. There have only been 6 sales of this pattern since 2000, Beside the Simpson example I bought, the last previous sales were by DLRC on ebay in 2/16, another Simpson coin by Stacks in 2012. So a hard one to find. By far the rarest of the 3C pieces you are trying to find in this category. Your collection is really growing and fun to watch the updates
      • 2024-02-10 00:41:23
  • TheCoinHound
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    From the PCGS guarantee: “Some patterns have minor (and sometimes major) differences in metallic content. In some cases it is impossible to tell the specific metallic content without laboratory testing. PCGS grades these coins according to appearance and the previous status in the numismatic market, i.e. auction appearances, trading, etc. We do not guarantee the metallic content of U.S. pattern coinage.” So be careful, folks.
    From the PCGS guarantee: “Some patterns have minor (and sometimes major) differences in metallic content. In some cases it is impossible to tell the specific metallic content without laboratory testing. PCGS grades these coins according to appearance and the previous status in the numismatic market, i.e. auction appearances, trading, etc. We do not guarantee the metallic content of U.S. pattern coinage.” So be careful, folks.
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    • retirednow
      Good point. I wonder why PCGS does not offer as a standard option to have a metallurgical test to confirm contents on certain pieces ...especially important on patterns. A case in point is the J-1618 (Goloid $) that I picked up at the Bass Sale ... this piece was listed by Bass and was in the ANA exhibit for 20 Years as J-1617. Presto it is now graded and listed by PCGS as a Silver piece vs the J-1617 Goloid mixture.

      It does look silver but still wonder! So many pieces out there like the 1C eagles, (J167 – 171), the postage 10C pieces (J325-330), and many others that are just based on the eye. At least Pollock did not assign unique numbers to some as he noted could not be distinguished.
      Good point. I wonder why PCGS does not offer as a standard option to have a metallurgical test to confirm contents on certain pieces ...especially important on patterns. A case in point is the J-1618 (Goloid $) that I picked up at the Bass Sale ... this piece was listed by Bass and was in the ANA exhibit for 20 Years as J-1617. Presto it is now graded and listed by PCGS as a Silver piece vs the J-1617 Goloid mixture. It does look silver but still wonder! So many pieces out there like the 1C eagles, (J167 – 171), the postage 10C pieces (J325-330), and many others that are just based on the eye. At least Pollock did not assign unique numbers to some as he noted could not be distinguished.
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    A few of the pieces form The Estate of Charles W. Montgomery rolled into the recent December Heritage auction and I did pick up another of the collection, a J653 … a 1$ Gold pattern stuck in Aluminum. Not a high-end piece but fairly rare. Saul with Uspatterns.com identified 6 examples so far which would make this Judd a High R7 vs the low R7 noted in the Judd reference book. https://uspatterns.store.turbify.net/j653p726.html While most of the 1868 Aluminum sets have now been broken up, Bill Rue’s pattern sale database recorded the 1st 1868 Aluminum set being auctioned in Ebenezer Mason’s Oct 1870 sale, however there was a single 1$ pieced also auction at the time. I am not sure what to make of the apparent die rust on the reverse which might imply this was a later restrike or just a aluminum planchet issue as minted or from over time?
    A few of the pieces form The Estate of Charles W. Montgomery rolled into the recent December Heritage auction and I did pick up another of the collection, a J653 … a 1$ Gold pattern stuck in Aluminum. Not a high-end piece but fairly rare. Saul with Uspatterns.com identified 6 examples so far which would make this Judd a High R7 vs the low R7 noted in the Judd reference book. https://uspatterns.store.turbify.net/j653p726.html While most of the 1868 Aluminum sets have now been broken up, Bill Rue’s pattern sale database recorded the 1st 1868 Aluminum set being auctioned in Ebenezer Mason’s Oct 1870 sale, however there was a single 1$ pieced also auction at the time. I am not sure what to make of the apparent die rust on the reverse which might imply this was a later restrike or just a aluminum planchet issue as minted or from over time?
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    • Dr.Bones
      The 1868 Aluminum set sold for $108.50 by Mason on 10/4/1870. Subsequently was re-catalogued and placed for sale on 2/16/1871 by Mason with each coin being sold either individually or as a set . All lots were passed. Interestingly, the 7/28/1881 Chapman sale and the 2/16/1882 H. G. Sampson sale state that only 5 sets were produced. In the 3c pattern world, there are 6 trime aluminum patterns that I have identifed potentially but there may be an opportunity to consolidate to 5 as old catalog pictures are suspicious but not conclusive that what is listed as 2 different coins may be one. There are 8 3c nickel patterns known. In the Lyman Low 6/28/1887 Linderman collection (past Mint director) had sets and individual coins. So perhaps not unusual a singleton existing out of a set. Evidently he was known to have coins struck to his desire. As it turns out the 1868 Aluminum sets and individual coins were confiscated by the US Government as they were not authorized perhaps suggesting a later re-striking by Linderman. They did not show up in the subsequent re-sale of the Linderman collection by Scott Stamp and coin in 1888
      The 1868 Aluminum set sold for $108.50 by Mason on 10/4/1870. Subsequently was re-catalogued and placed for sale on 2/16/1871 by Mason with each coin being sold either individually or as a set . All lots were passed. Interestingly, the 7/28/1881 Chapman sale and the 2/16/1882 H. G. Sampson sale state that only 5 sets were produced. In the 3c pattern world, there are 6 trime aluminum patterns that I have identifed potentially but there may be an opportunity to consolidate to 5 as old catalog pictures are suspicious but not conclusive that what is listed as 2 different coins may be one. There are 8 3c nickel patterns known. In the Lyman Low 6/28/1887 Linderman collection (past Mint director) had sets and individual coins. So perhaps not unusual a singleton existing out of a set. Evidently he was known to have coins struck to his desire. As it turns out the 1868 Aluminum sets and individual coins were confiscated by the US Government as they were not authorized perhaps suggesting a later re-striking by Linderman. They did not show up in the subsequent re-sale of the Linderman collection by Scott Stamp and coin in 1888
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    • Freddie
      Beautiful! Thanks for sharing!
      Beautiful! Thanks for sharing!
      • 2023-12-24 02:14:27
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    I noted USpatterns.com just added a consolidated price list of patterns from Heritage’s Nov 16/17 Dallas auction.
    https://uspatterns.com/heno20sa2.html https://uspatterns.com/heno20sa2.html auction.

    A majority were from the Charles Montgomery estate and exhibited a nice collection of off-metal gold patterns. I was able to win a couple of the patterns that I had my eye on in prior auctions of Bass and Simpson and please I was able to win them at the level I was willing to bid. I presume most of patterns may have been assembled about 20 + years ago as several had the Bass (1999) pedigree as well as Pittman and not appeared in auctions since 2000 or so.
    I made the comment a few months back that I completed a 6 piece set of “GOD OUR TRUST“ Eagle patterns in copper that took years to assemble and then Heritage started to load this set up onto their site. Montgomery’s collection had many of these samples that included duplicate in Gilt.
    Over-all,I thought the collection was a nice balance of grade and scarcity that the price levels appeared reasonable. Some pieces, I thought, were even cheap when comparing to other auctions.

    I wonder what other pattern collectors thought?
    I noted USpatterns.com just added a consolidated price list of patterns from Heritage’s Nov 16/17 Dallas auction. https://uspatterns.com/heno20sa2.html https://uspatterns.com/heno20sa2.html auction. A majority were from the Charles Montgomery estate and exhibited a nice collection of off-metal gold patterns. I was able to win a couple of the patterns that I had my eye on in prior auctions of Bass and Simpson and please I was able to win them at the level I was willing to bid. I presume most of patterns may have been assembled about 20 + years ago as several had the Bass (1999) pedigree as well as Pittman and not appeared in auctions since 2000 or so. I made the comment a few months back that I completed a 6 piece set of “GOD OUR TRUST“ Eagle patterns in copper that took years to assemble and then Heritage started to load this set up onto their site. Montgomery’s collection had many of these samples that included duplicate in Gilt. Over-all,I thought the collection was a nice balance of grade and scarcity that the price levels appeared reasonable. Some pieces, I thought, were even cheap when comparing to other auctions. I wonder what other pattern collectors thought?
    Heritage November 2023 Sale
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    • retirednow
      Congrats on picking some up ... and I agree that the FUN auction appear to be setting the stage for some high activity - all high end and POP 1 kind of pieces ... I have an eye on a couple and I keep my fingers cross that other bidders may run out of interest or funds when they come up but then again I will not bet on it.
      Congrats on picking some up ... and I agree that the FUN auction appear to be setting the stage for some high activity - all high end and POP 1 kind of pieces ... I have an eye on a couple and I keep my fingers cross that other bidders may run out of interest or funds when they come up but then again I will not bet on it.
      • 2023-12-03 16:23:01
    • TheCoinHound
      I also managed to buy some patterns in that sale, and not just from the Montgomery collection. For better or worse, I don't expect the Simpson and Cape Coral patterns in the FUN auction to be as buyable.
      I also managed to buy some patterns in that sale, and not just from the Montgomery collection. For better or worse, I don't expect the Simpson and Cape Coral patterns in the FUN auction to be as buyable.
      • 2023-12-02 03:14:03
    • Coinbert
      Thank you.
      Thank you.
      • 2023-11-25 14:55:50
    • Coinbert
      Hi Retirednow, I am looking for a copper Restrike 1827 quarter if you ever see one offered. Thanks
      Hi Retirednow, I am looking for a copper Restrike 1827 quarter if you ever see one offered. Thanks
      • 2023-11-23 14:56:07
      • retirednow
        Coinbert
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        • 2023-11-24 21:46:03
      • retirednow
        will do ... though unlikely, I do not travel to shows so my network is more limited but just in case, if I come across one I will reach out to you
        will do ... though unlikely, I do not travel to shows so my network is more limited but just in case, if I come across one I will reach out to you
        • 2023-11-24 21:47:35
  • retirednow added 2 photos
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    I enjoy assembling various pattern type sets that display the various obverse / reverse motifs. I am happy that I just completed another one … a 4 piece Indian Princess 10 Cent sample set. I assemble these independent of the material they were struck in and edge types – mainly because I do not have enough life span to narrow these down.
    My set is shown below and the piece I just added was a J-1077. This piece had been cleaned (I guess we like to say restored) in the few last years. It turns out this piece is a match to the Willaim Rau / Harry Bass (1999) piece as a PCGS64. In my eyes, it is 10 times improvement in eye appeal now. The Piece since In Rua hands (NGC65) has been regraded twice (once back to PCGS64 and now NGC64 6680463-005 ).
    I enjoy assembling various pattern type sets that display the various obverse / reverse motifs. I am happy that I just completed another one … a 4 piece Indian Princess 10 Cent sample set. I assemble these independent of the material they were struck in and edge types – mainly because I do not have enough life span to narrow these down. My set is shown below and the piece I just added was a J-1077. This piece had been cleaned (I guess we like to say restored) in the few last years. It turns out this piece is a match to the Willaim Rau / Harry Bass (1999) piece as a PCGS64. In my eyes, it is 10 times improvement in eye appeal now. The Piece since In Rua hands (NGC65) has been regraded twice (once back to PCGS64 and now NGC64 6680463-005 ).
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  • TheCoinHound
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    Excluding the Bass cois, it's shocking how few patterns are in the ANA sales. This is all Heritage has: https://coins.ha.com/c/search-results.zx?Ne=35&N=51+329+793+4294935965&ic4=Refine-Auctions-102615

    And this is all S-B has: https://auctions.stacksbowers.com/lots?categories=1-11EQR&parent_category=1-11EIQ&limit=36&lots_range=upcoming
    Excluding the Bass cois, it's shocking how few patterns are in the ANA sales. This is all Heritage has: https://coins.ha.com/c/search-results.zx?Ne=35&N=51+329+793+4294935965&ic4=Refine-Auctions-102615 And this is all S-B has: https://auctions.stacksbowers.com/lots?categories=1-11EQR&parent_category=1-11EIQ&limit=36&lots_range=upcoming
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    • retirednow
      Interesting that Heritage has a refresh listing in their future upcoming auction previews and there appears to be someone liquidating their "GOD OUR TRUST" Eagles in copper and gilt. Gee ... I was happy to just plug the last hole in my sample set with a Bass Gilt piece and bingo now there is an entire grouping in one auction popping up. Being a someone interested in patterns, it can be with feast or famine when it comes to collecting
      Interesting that Heritage has a refresh listing in their future upcoming auction previews and there appears to be someone liquidating their "GOD OUR TRUST" Eagles in copper and gilt. Gee ... I was happy to just plug the last hole in my sample set with a Bass Gilt piece and bingo now there is an entire grouping in one auction popping up. Being a someone interested in patterns, it can be with feast or famine when it comes to collecting
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      • TheCoinHound
        And at this point the Cape Coral collection of patterns being sold at FUN is practically just around the corner. Another reminder that even when it seems like there's almost nothing to buy, there will always be more coins!
        And at this point the Cape Coral collection of patterns being sold at FUN is practically just around the corner. Another reminder that even when it seems like there's almost nothing to buy, there will always be more coins!
        • 2023-10-13 15:02:31
    • Coinbert
      Just joined the group. Would like to purchase a J48 copper Restrike quarter or talk with anyone who owns one. Would like to do more research on these interesting coins. I own the Proof 66 Red Brown and CoinHound knows me.
      Just joined the group. Would like to purchase a J48 copper Restrike quarter or talk with anyone who owns one. Would like to do more research on these interesting coins. I own the Proof 66 Red Brown and CoinHound knows me.
      • 2023-08-06 12:52:05
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    • retirednow
      I speculate patterns go in cycles .... there are those large holdings (like William Rau, Newman, E. Horatio Morgan. Simpson; now Bass) and then are those smaller registry sets where collectors held a smaller groupings and more specialized ( like 5 C Patterns). Interesting to me is that it appears to be a cycle after those larger sales when the pieces reenter the market within 1 - 2 years (for what ever reason a short cycle). I have found these to be more of a buying opportunity as I have usually pick up pieces that I liked at a discount to the prior auction prices.
      I speculate patterns go in cycles .... there are those large holdings (like William Rau, Newman, E. Horatio Morgan. Simpson; now Bass) and then are those smaller registry sets where collectors held a smaller groupings and more specialized ( like 5 C Patterns). Interesting to me is that it appears to be a cycle after those larger sales when the pieces reenter the market within 1 - 2 years (for what ever reason a short cycle). I have found these to be more of a buying opportunity as I have usually pick up pieces that I liked at a discount to the prior auction prices.
      • 2023-07-31 20:23:59
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      • TheCoinHound
        I would think that most of those retreads come mostly from dealers (who tried and failed to sell the coins in the interim) and from pattern newbies (who got sucked in by a big name auction, and later thought better of it). But on the flip side, big auctions of patterns also create new collectors who actually do stick with it and become avid pattern collectors.
        I would think that most of those retreads come mostly from dealers (who tried and failed to sell the coins in the interim) and from pattern newbies (who got sucked in by a big name auction, and later thought better of it). But on the flip side, big auctions of patterns also create new collectors who actually do stick with it and become avid pattern collectors.
        • 2023-08-01 15:40:46
    • P0CKETCHANGE
      Thanks, hadn’t seen the Stacks lots. What do you make of the low supply?
      Thanks, hadn’t seen the Stacks lots. What do you make of the low supply?
      • 2023-07-29 13:15:09
      • TheCoinHound
        I’m not sure. It’s not just patterns that are in short supply.
        I’m not sure. It’s not just patterns that are in short supply.
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  • retirednow
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    Does anyone have any knowledge if either an updated Judd or Pollock type reference is being worked on or maybe just a completely new reference on patterns will be published? I had recall reading a post a couple of years back about an update was being worked? Not sure if Roger was working to publish more works on patterns?
    Does anyone have any knowledge if either an updated Judd or Pollock type reference is being worked on or maybe just a completely new reference on patterns will be published? I had recall reading a post a couple of years back about an update was being worked? Not sure if Roger was working to publish more works on patterns?
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    • Dr.Bones
      I have heard of no real momentum for update on the Judd Book quite yet. In my realm of the pattern world, I will be publishing a 350 page book specific to 3C patterns that should be printed in spring . Updates rarity scale on over 50% of them, consolidates and proposes elimination of some Judd numbers and suggests additions of others based on metal testing and other research
      I have heard of no real momentum for update on the Judd Book quite yet. In my realm of the pattern world, I will be publishing a 350 page book specific to 3C patterns that should be printed in spring . Updates rarity scale on over 50% of them, consolidates and proposes elimination of some Judd numbers and suggests additions of others based on metal testing and other research
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      • retirednow
        Nice ... loo,
        Nice ... loo,
        • 2023-10-06 02:25:35
      • retirednow
        Nice ... looking forward to your book ... u have a great collection and I enjoy the comments and pedigrees listed on your pieces.
        Nice ... looking forward to your book ... u have a great collection and I enjoy the comments and pedigrees listed on your pieces.
        • 2023-10-06 02:28:08
  • P0CKETCHANGE
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    Anyone going for a Bass coin tonight? I was seriously considering one, but decided to sit it out—just can’t stretch for it right now, unfortunately.
    Anyone going for a Bass coin tonight? I was seriously considering one, but decided to sit it out—just can’t stretch for it right now, unfortunately.
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    • retirednow
      Here is a picture of it - it completed my Mimi pattern set of "GOD OUR TRUST" Eagles in copper .... well this may not look like my others as it is guilt - it is still a copper piece never the less .
      Here is a picture of it - it completed my Mimi pattern set of "GOD OUR TRUST" Eagles in copper .... well this may not look like my others as it is guilt - it is still a copper piece never the less . 😀
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      • P0CKETCHANGE
        superb! that is very neat
        superb! that is very neat
        • 2023-08-18 20:06:19
    • retirednow
      My one Bass Piece arrived today ...J287
      My one Bass Piece arrived today ...J287
      • 2023-08-18 19:41:14
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    • retirednow
      Not in PA ... but watch live. Very active and some huge prices as one would expect ... I kind of laugh after the one piece ( think it was the 29 cap half eagle) sold over 3 million and the very next piece he had to start bidding at 2k for net graded piece for 4 K
      Not in PA ... but watch live. Very active and some huge prices as one would expect ... I kind of laugh after the one piece ( think it was the 29 cap half eagle) sold over 3 million and the very next piece he had to start bidding at 2k for net graded piece for 4 K
      • 2023-08-11 20:34:39
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    Hello pattern people. I’m new (this year) to this fascinating niche of numismatics, but I own a couple already including this 2c.
    Hello pattern people. I’m new (this year) to this fascinating niche of numismatics, but I own a couple already including this 2c.
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    • TheCoinHound
      Have you read this yet? https://whitman.com/in-god-we-trust/
      Have you read this yet? https://whitman.com/in-god-we-trust/
      • 2023-07-20 23:17:48
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      • P0CKETCHANGE
        The motto debate is the main thing that interested me in this pattern, so I know a bit about it, but wasn’t aware of this book—thanks for the recommendation!
        The motto debate is the main thing that interested me in this pattern, so I know a bit about it, but wasn’t aware of this book—thanks for the recommendation!
        • 2023-07-21 12:57:26
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      • westcoin
        There is also a nice presentation which David Lisot (RIP) filmed and the NNP hosts of the author William Bierly sharing the story of how the motto, "In God We Trust", came about to be on America's coins and money.
        https://nnp.wustl.edu/library/book/614044
        There is also a nice presentation which David Lisot (RIP) filmed and the NNP hosts of the author William Bierly sharing the story of how the motto, "In God We Trust", came about to be on America's coins and money. https://nnp.wustl.edu/library/book/614044
        • 2023-07-28 01:58:57
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      • retirednow
        westcoin I picked up the book after the Penny lady posted one of her show reports a few years back that included a photo of the William holding his book. I enjoyed the read very much and how he shaped the entire social, economics and political environment together in the development of the motto.
        [westcoin] I picked up the book after the Penny lady posted one of her show reports a few years back that included a photo of the William holding his book. I enjoyed the read very much and how he shaped the entire social, economics and political environment together in the development of the motto.
        • 2023-07-30 00:22:42
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      • westcoin
        retirednow I invite you to join the new group I created on numismatics books & literature. I have been posting some of my old book reviews I wrote awhile back, trying to get some traction to the group - "Numismatic Literature" just search in the groups area, as I can't figure out how to make a link to a group yet.
        [retirednow] I invite you to join the new group I created on numismatics books & literature. I have been posting some of my old book reviews I wrote awhile back, trying to get some traction to the group - "Numismatic Literature" just search in the groups area, as I can't figure out how to make a link to a group yet.
        • 2023-07-30 00:26:34
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    • retirednow
      Saul Teichman does a great job of tracking these rare & key pieces along with their pedigrees. USpatterns.com has been my go to site for years. https://uspatterns.store.turbify.net/index.html
      Saul Teichman does a great job of tracking these rare & key pieces along with their pedigrees. USpatterns.com has been my go to site for years. https://uspatterns.store.turbify.net/index.html
      • 2023-07-31 20:28:59
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    • TheCoinHound
      To see pics of all (or virtually all) examples of the copper Schoolgirl, check this out: https://nnp.wustl.edu/library/book/620830
      To see pics of all (or virtually all) examples of the copper Schoolgirl, check this out: https://nnp.wustl.edu/library/book/620830
      • 2023-07-20 23:12:44
    • saulty
      A pristine example of the schoolgirl dollar in copper
      A pristine example of the schoolgirl dollar in copper
      • 2023-07-18 04:29:16
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