Since no one jump in with any comments I will just answer my own question - I learned more since I posted the question 4 months ago. The 2 Heritage auctions were held with a large consignment of pattern nickels (one in Nov 2024 and a 2nd one just completed in Jan 2025 - the Fun auction). The majority of the pattern nickels appeared from the the collection of Wayne Wilcox. These were either own by Julian Leidman or were consigned through him. Some of you may have known Wayne and what I could find on the internet he appeared well known in the Maryland area, active in the local coin club and had passed way in 2016. Julian had this inventory since at least 2016 posted on his ebay store and then on his own web site. I had actually purchase one 5C pattern back in 2016 directly from Julian. Over the years I did approach Julian on several other pieces but we could not reach agreement on a price and I would just pass. I did pick up several of the pieces in the recent auctions - only limited by my free cash flow. I might have bid on others, ( many were seldom seen and R.8 pieces) that I would liked to have owned - just had to pick my interest. The collection that Wayne Wilcox assembled would have been a registry ALL STAR.

Wow. So impressed!

Love it!

Impressive!

I would like to add some comments about my type set of shield patterns nickels that I posted here. Please feel free to add any of your thoughts.

1866 J-595 / Pollock-582.
The piece was struck in copper with a reeded edge, It is a nicely struck piece with nice hues with reflective fields especially rotated under a light. It does have a pedigree marker to help trace it – appears to me as some sort of die spalling at base of the “5”.

This is a High R.7 rarity with only possibly 8 unique specimens (one being impounded in a museum) had been traced by Saul Techiman - using auction photos/plates for comparison. One of these, were noted could be one of the other 4 as the auction photo was dark
My piece is from the Lemus Collection (Heritage 10/2009 Lot1260), Pollock noted this specific piece in his reference book with the technical aspects of 55.7 grains .809 diameter. Pollock also referenced a list of pedigree’s as

Ex: J. Brenner; F.C.C. Boyd; King Farouk; Palace Collections of Egypt (Sotheby's, 2/1954), lot 1800; Hirt (Pine Tree, 11/1975), lot 249; Auction '84 (Superior, 7/1984) -$1210), lot 492; and then it became The Lemus Collection, Queller Family Collection Part Two (Heritage, 1/2009), lot 1660,

Pollock listed pedigrees were the same prestige owners, as were listed by Superior in their 7/84 “Auction 84” Lot #492 catalog. However, USPattern.com concluded that those listed before the Hirt Pine Tree 11/75 auction cannot be verified. i.e. J. Brenner; F.C.C. Boyd; and King Farouk; Palace Collections.

Looking at Bill Rue historical pattern auction listing, this piece only appeared 19 times since 1954 and no prior listings. My piece made up of 5 of those 19 listings.