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- Just a general question for anyone who knows... why do you need to select BN on circulated copper? I thought that anything below a 60 is automatically assumed BN. Like for proof jefferson nickels, you don't need to select FS. I don't think I've ever seen a label have a colour designation for 58+ or less. That's been something I keep forgetting to add when I submit my guesses. Has anyone ever gotten an AU copper that was labeled RD or RB?Just a general question for anyone who knows... why do you need to select BN on circulated copper? I thought that anything below a 60 is automatically assumed BN. Like for proof jefferson nickels, you don't need to select FS. I don't think I've ever seen a label have a colour designation for 58+ or less. That's been something I keep forgetting to add when I submit my guesses. Has anyone ever gotten an AU copper that was labeled RD or RB?13 Comments 0 Shares 7422 Views
- Congratulations to our 1st Quarter Guess the Grade winners!
Crepidodera - Highest Rank
A high accuracy of 74.1% helped to win this season for Crepidodera.
SethHanson - Highest Accuracy
Awarded to SethHanson as the next best eligible player with an average accuracy of 71.4% and blisteringly fast 3.6s average time per guess.
KJC120 - Fastest Grader
With an average speed of 3.3s KJC120 was the fastest grader in the Top 25.
MorganDollar - Most Graded
Over 15,000 coins graded and awarded to MorganDollar as the best eligible player in this category.
Richardo.mushinggun - MyCollect Choice
Just missed out on the top spot in multiple categories but an excellent job with 2nd most competition graded coins, very high accuracy of 68.4% and incredible average speed of 3.5s.
YN_Evan2010 - MyCollect Choice
4th Overall and a consistent competitor in Guess the Grade.
The 1st quarter is a little slower as we source the prizes and get them made. I will be in touch when we are ready to ship to get addresses for the winners.Congratulations to our 1st Quarter Guess the Grade winners! Crepidodera - Highest Rank A high accuracy of 74.1% helped to win this season for Crepidodera. SethHanson - Highest Accuracy Awarded to SethHanson as the next best eligible player with an average accuracy of 71.4% and blisteringly fast 3.6s average time per guess. KJC120 - Fastest Grader With an average speed of 3.3s KJC120 was the fastest grader in the Top 25. MorganDollar - Most Graded Over 15,000 coins graded and awarded to MorganDollar as the best eligible player in this category. Richardo.mushinggun - MyCollect Choice Just missed out on the top spot in multiple categories but an excellent job with 2nd most competition graded coins, very high accuracy of 68.4% and incredible average speed of 3.5s. YN_Evan2010 - MyCollect Choice 4th Overall and a consistent competitor in Guess the Grade. The 1st quarter is a little slower as we source the prizes and get them made. I will be in touch when we are ready to ship to get addresses for the winners.
3 Comments 0 Shares 8008 ViewsCommenting is disabled. - Anyone wanna take a stab at grading this shield nickel?Anyone wanna take a stab at grading this shield nickel?
30 Comments 0 Shares 29820 ViewsCommenting is disabled.- I just got this coin but I couldn’t remember if it was 63 or 64 so I went 63+.I just got this coin but I couldn’t remember if it was 63 or 64 so I went 63+.
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- Samthecoinman You certainly don't have time to check![Samthecoinman] 😂 You certainly don't have time to check!
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- With the hits on the shield, that's a very poor MS64!With the hits on the shield, that's a very poor MS64!
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View previous replies- crepidodera You could probably send this coin in 1000 times and it wouldn't be deemed nice enough to get a Cac sticker a single time.[crepidodera] You could probably send this coin in 1000 times and it wouldn't be deemed nice enough to get a Cac sticker a single time.
- Samthecoinman I did check and it is not CAC.[Samthecoinman] I did check and it is not CAC.
- crepidodera At least some of the hits are hidden by that stain. I think 64 is this coin's "terminal grade."[crepidodera] At least some of the hits are hidden by that stain.😄 I think 64 is this coin's "terminal grade."
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- ToddPollock If it were I'd be shocked.[ToddPollock] If it were I'd be shocked.
- Samthecoinman A vast majority of coins that get reported on GTG are CAC coins. Just coins people are way off on.[Samthecoinman] A vast majority of coins that get reported on GTG are CAC coins. Just coins people are way off on.
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- Wow Evan! 76.4% accuracy, very impressive!!Wow Evan! 76.4% accuracy, very impressive!!2 Comments 0 Shares 10497 ViewsCommenting is disabled.
- Thanks, and good luck everyone!Thanks, and good luck everyone!
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- YN_Evan2010 76.4 is crazy, I’m only getting 77.5% on my educational mode set for just silver eagles lol[YN_Evan2010] 76.4 is crazy, I’m only getting 77.5% on my educational mode set for just silver eagles lol
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- On to the second quarter! 13,000 new coins were added this morning! Hopefully that will keep our guessers busy for at least a couple days. We are just shy of 120,000 coins available for grading.On to the second quarter! 13,000 new coins were added this morning! Hopefully that will keep our guessers busy for at least a couple days. We are just shy of 120,000 coins available for grading.3 Comments 0 Shares 11747 ViewsCommenting is disabled.
- At least a couple days lol. That'll last SethHanson a couple hours maybeAt least a couple days lol. That'll last [SethHanson] a couple hours maybe
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- YN_Evan2010 maybe a couple.....[YN_Evan2010] maybe a couple.....
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- Guess the Graders- What changes do you want to see with Guess the Grade this year?
The main request I get is world. We hear you on that, any other changes or feedback for us?Guess the Graders- What changes do you want to see with Guess the Grade this year? The main request I get is world. We hear you on that, any other changes or feedback for us?21 Comments 0 Shares 21251 ViewsCommenting is disabled.- user made GTG challenges.
user can create challenge by entering great collections items IDs and then upload them for other people to try.user made GTG challenges. user can create challenge by entering great collections items IDs and then upload them for other people to try.- 3
- DrapedBUSTER Love this idea!!![DrapedBUSTER] Love this idea!!!
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- I think it would be great if all the imperfections (with only coins that possess them, of course) were visually illuminated through some sort of algorithm/system with annotations of the exact imperfections each coin possesses, along with the degree of the imperfection (maybe it could even be interactive on a level). This would enhance user learning by instilling a semi-objective benchmark. This mode could be an optional extension and a great supplement to the educational mode. (I am sure more insights could be added to this blueprint.)I think it would be great if all the imperfections (with only coins that possess them, of course) were visually illuminated through some sort of algorithm/system with annotations of the exact imperfections each coin possesses, along with the degree of the imperfection (maybe it could even be interactive on a level). This would enhance user learning by instilling a semi-objective benchmark. This mode could be an optional extension and a great supplement to the educational mode. (I am sure more insights could be added to this blueprint.)
- I think it would be really cool if we can extract our results into a dataset that we can download as a CSV or something. I would love to run data analytics and draw conclusions about the type of series I need to work on the most. I'm thinking some columns like date, mintmark, type, actual grade (with prefix and suffix included), guessed grade, and some other helpful metrics would be great. It would be even better if this dataset could be updated in real time after every guess and we can download it again any time.I think it would be really cool if we can extract our results into a dataset that we can download as a CSV or something. I would love to run data analytics and draw conclusions about the type of series I need to work on the most. I'm thinking some columns like date, mintmark, type, actual grade (with prefix and suffix included), guessed grade, and some other helpful metrics would be great. It would be even better if this dataset could be updated in real time after every guess and we can download it again any time.
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- This might be hard to do and it's really a miniscule thing but maybe after you grade a coin it pulls up an image of the full slab so you can notice the subtle differences in grading standards between the different slab types.
Maybe it could pull up in the top right corner of this screen:This might be hard to do and it's really a miniscule thing but maybe after you grade a coin it pulls up an image of the full slab so you can notice the subtle differences in grading standards between the different slab types. Maybe it could pull up in the top right corner of this screen:
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- YN_Evan2010 I like this one. Before buying online I always like to see the slab photo and compare to the glamour shots[YN_Evan2010] I like this one. Before buying online I always like to see the slab photo and compare to the glamour shots
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- YN_Evan2010 Slab shots would be super cool. +1[YN_Evan2010] Slab shots would be super cool. +1
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- crepidodera I have a feeling this one's gonna be back and forth... Good luck!!![crepidodera] I have a feeling this one's gonna be back and forth... Good luck!!!
3 Comments 0 Shares 16788 ViewsCommenting is disabled. - If I saw this coin raw id have assume it wasn’t genuine by the mint mark style, both of the letter C seem to be thinner than example photos and the opening appears to also be wider than the example photos, of 1876 cc dimes I can find, is that something that can occur from the coin being worn or did they just have some variation in mint mark appearance?If I saw this coin raw id have assume it wasn’t genuine by the mint mark style, both of the letter C seem to be thinner than example photos and the opening appears to also be wider than the example photos, of 1876 cc dimes I can find, is that something that can occur from the coin being worn or did they just have some variation in mint mark appearance?
6 Comments 0 Shares 16601 ViewsCommenting is disabled.- Most coins have more than one die variety. Dies have minor (sometimes major) differences that can be studied and collected.
Seated dime die varieties were studied in great detail by Gerry Fortin who literally wrote the book on Lib Seated Dimes. Great info to have for stuff like this! It can also be very helpful in making sure you don't have a fake to attribute the die variety. https://www.seateddimevarieties.com/Attributing%20Varieties.htmMost coins have more than one die variety. Dies have minor (sometimes major) differences that can be studied and collected. Seated dime die varieties were studied in great detail by Gerry Fortin who literally wrote the book on Lib Seated Dimes. Great info to have for stuff like this! It can also be very helpful in making sure you don't have a fake to attribute the die variety. https://www.seateddimevarieties.com/Attributing%20Varieties.htm- RyanG Yes, I collect many of the Seated Dime varieties. I know Gerry personally and have dealt with him since the 1980's. I have bought many many nice Dimes from him over the years.[RyanG] Yes, I collect many of the Seated Dime varieties. I know Gerry personally and have dealt with him since the 1980's. I have bought many many nice Dimes from him over the years.
- Dimeman Very cool! I listened to a potcast he did with one of the ANA podcasts. Sounds like a great guy. He certainly contributed a ton of knowledge to the hobby![Dimeman] Very cool! I listened to a potcast he did with one of the ANA podcasts. Sounds like a great guy. He certainly contributed a ton of knowledge to the hobby!
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- That is a nice problem free Seated Dime in a nice mid grade. The Mint Mark on CC Dimes in 1876 can have similiar differences.That is a nice problem free Seated Dime in a nice mid grade. The Mint Mark on CC Dimes in 1876 can have similiar differences.
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- Dimeman thank you for your knowledge![Dimeman] thank you for your knowledge!
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- Want to get better at this game? Go to more coin shows! Physically handle more coins and build more type sets for your own collection. The more coins you physically see, compare, and get familiar with, the better you can grade them. It will likely take some years of training your eyes to get somewhat comfortable with grading a few series of coins. Don't get discouraged, it takes patience to learn this. Nobody was born grading coins. We learn the art of grading by holding them in our hands :)Want to get better at this game? Go to more coin shows! Physically handle more coins and build more type sets for your own collection. The more coins you physically see, compare, and get familiar with, the better you can grade them. It will likely take some years of training your eyes to get somewhat comfortable with grading a few series of coins. Don't get discouraged, it takes patience to learn this. Nobody was born grading coins. We learn the art of grading by holding them in our hands :)1 Comments 0 Shares 19813 ViewsCommenting is disabled.
- It would be great if photos on line were consistent in their quality. If someone could come up with a camera app that would would control the lighting and consistent distance from lens to coin surface it would be a great tool. But i agree with you that a coin in hand tells you a truer story. Also if you are interested in a specific series ie: Washington quarters, Morgan dollars etc. You'll become more of an expert on that series and will get to know more about strike pattern by year and mint,It would be great if photos on line were consistent in their quality. If someone could come up with a camera app that would would control the lighting and consistent distance from lens to coin surface it would be a great tool. But i agree with you that a coin in hand tells you a truer story. Also if you are interested in a specific series ie: Washington quarters, Morgan dollars etc. You'll become more of an expert on that series and will get to know more about strike pattern by year and mint,
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- How did I get the number right but miss that it was a proof lolHow did I get the number right but miss that it was a proof lol
8 Comments 0 Shares 18093 ViewsCommenting is disabled.- A friend of mine bought a low grade 1880 (super scarce date). He sent it to ANACS to get certified. They said that coin had them stumped. Everyone on the grading floor that day looked at that coin because they had a very hard time attributing it. Hard to believe but they determined it to be a PR6. That's right! A Proof Good 6! He ended up sending it back to the seller because he had marked it as a business strike on his listing. So my friend got refunded. Even in that grade, it would have been a $2k++ coin but as a proof, nobody wants it. I never met a "Lowball Proof" collector yet but I guess that's possible!A friend of mine bought a low grade 1880 (super scarce date). He sent it to ANACS to get certified. They said that coin had them stumped. Everyone on the grading floor that day looked at that coin because they had a very hard time attributing it. Hard to believe but they determined it to be a PR6. That's right! A Proof Good 6! He ended up sending it back to the seller because he had marked it as a business strike on his listing. So my friend got refunded. Even in that grade, it would have been a $2k++ coin but as a proof, nobody wants it. I never met a "Lowball Proof" collector yet but I guess that's possible!
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- RyanG super cool story! why am I tempted to assemble some low grade proofs now just for the fun of looking for them lol[RyanG] super cool story! why am I tempted to assemble some low grade proofs now just for the fun of looking for them lol
- Zach150 You would be the first ever low ball Proof collector! That's actually kinda cool. It would certainly be a massive challenge. It's rare to find proofs in low circ grades[Zach150] You would be the first ever low ball Proof collector! That's actually kinda cool. It would certainly be a massive challenge. It's rare to find proofs in low circ grades
- RyanG go table to table at every coin show I go to and just ask, do you have any old proofs that have circulated and probably get a ton of weird looks but might find some lol[RyanG] go table to table at every coin show I go to and just ask, do you have any old proofs that have circulated and probably get a ton of weird looks but might find some lol
- RyanG I find the 1877 1c Indians inserting for proofs. They is one graded in grades 6, 8, 10, 15 and 2 in 30. I am sure this is people hoping for a low grade MS.[RyanG] I find the 1877 1c Indians inserting for proofs. They is one graded in grades 6, 8, 10, 15 and 2 in 30. I am sure this is people hoping for a low grade MS.
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- ToddPollock Yes, and especially the 1880. This is why it's important to buy key dates like the 1880 certified because the proof is a lot more common than the business strike. In low grades it can be almost impossible to tell them apart.[ToddPollock] Yes, and especially the 1880. This is why it's important to buy key dates like the 1880 certified because the proof is a lot more common than the business strike. In low grades it can be almost impossible to tell them apart.
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- Can’t believe this got XF-40, it has way more wear than the example of an XF-40 on coinfacts, the eagles feathers are so flat on the reverse and liberty isnt bold and clearCan’t believe this got XF-40, it has way more wear than the example of an XF-40 on coinfacts, the eagles feathers are so flat on the reverse and liberty isnt bold and clear
5 Comments 0 Shares 17375 ViewsCommenting is disabled.- The strike was incredibly weak. Not necessarily a lot of wearThe strike was incredibly weak. Not necessarily a lot of wear
- RyanG I was always told to differentiate wear vs weak strike was that weak strike appeared as more rounded where wear give the appearance of more flattened, is there another consideration?[RyanG] I was always told to differentiate wear vs weak strike was that weak strike appeared as more rounded where wear give the appearance of more flattened, is there another consideration?
- Zach150 Good question. Some areas, like the leaf stems, are very hard to see, yet on a fully struck coin, even in XF, would still be visible because they are not high points. There are several points on this coin that are not high points that are not fully struck. Also, the US Mint used up dies till they broke. I'm not an expert on die states of a 1839 D Quarter Eagle so I can't tell you what the die state is but it does appear to me that it was a LDS as well as a light strike.
Full disclosure, I probably would have guessed a VF30.
[Zach150] Good question. Some areas, like the leaf stems, are very hard to see, yet on a fully struck coin, even in XF, would still be visible because they are not high points. There are several points on this coin that are not high points that are not fully struck. Also, the US Mint used up dies till they broke. I'm not an expert on die states of a 1839 D Quarter Eagle so I can't tell you what the die state is but it does appear to me that it was a LDS as well as a light strike. Full disclosure, I probably would have guessed a VF30.- 1
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- Agreed, this should've gotten a slightly lower grade. The weakness in the eagle's feathers and shield I think can be attributed to strike rather than wear, though. Plus, for a 40 it should've had a touch of luster left. The '39-D is a tough, tough date though, so I think that'd be part of the reason they went easy on this coin.Agreed, this should've gotten a slightly lower grade. The weakness in the eagle's feathers and shield I think can be attributed to strike rather than wear, though. Plus, for a 40 it should've had a touch of luster left. The '39-D is a tough, tough date though, so I think that'd be part of the reason they went easy on this coin.
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- YN_Evan2010 I can’t see it past a vf25, the obverse is better then the reverse, I just looked at CoinFacts pics and the reverse feathers look more worn than the F-15 example, where the obverse is similar to the Vf-25 just with a little more disturbance to liberty than their example 25[YN_Evan2010] I can’t see it past a vf25, the obverse is better then the reverse, I just looked at CoinFacts pics and the reverse feathers look more worn than the F-15 example, where the obverse is similar to the Vf-25 just with a little more disturbance to liberty than their example 25
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- Wow Seth! Those numbers are going to be hard to beat.Wow Seth! Those numbers are going to be hard to beat.15 Comments 0 Shares 26334 ViewsCommenting is disabled.
- I'm glad your numbers are improving Zach!I'm glad your numbers are improving Zach!
- crepidodera the one thing that shocked me is both times I was given a ms61 Morgan today I immediately thought yep that looks like a 61 and got green for both of them! A few months ago a 61 and a 3 looked more similar to me[crepidodera] the one thing that shocked me is both times I was given a ms61 Morgan today I immediately thought yep that looks like a 61 and got green for both of them! A few months ago a 61 and a 3 looked more similar to me
- Zach150 It takes many repetitions to tell the grades apart consistently. And even then, you have the human factor, grades are not always consistently applied.[Zach150] It takes many repetitions to tell the grades apart consistently. And even then, you have the human factor, grades are not always consistently applied.
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- I agree richardo, it doesn't always work. I use that strategy because if, for example, I grade without the + for two coins and nail one for 20 points and miss the second coin by one grade for 12 points - I total 32 points. But, if I had used the + strategy, I quite often get 18 points for both coins - total 36 points. Don't get me wrong, I quite often grade morgan dollars MS64. DougI agree richardo, it doesn't always work. I use that strategy because if, for example, I grade without the + for two coins and nail one for 20 points and miss the second coin by one grade for 12 points - I total 32 points. But, if I had used the + strategy, I quite often get 18 points for both coins - total 36 points. Don't get me wrong, I quite often grade morgan dollars MS64. Doug
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- On mint state coins choose two grades and use the + between the two. So, if you think a coin is either MS63 or MS64, you guess 63+. Practice often, try to become familiar with the look of each coin type in various grades, the "gestalt" of the coin. Good luck!On mint state coins choose two grades and use the + between the two. So, if you think a coin is either MS63 or MS64, you guess 63+. Practice often, try to become familiar with the look of each coin type in various grades, the "gestalt" of the coin. Good luck!
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- crepidodera I’ve found that sometimes this doesn’t work. Great strategy for some easier coin types(eg average 63-64 morgan dollars, Franklin halves, etc), but for weird stuff like old proofs, some bust stuff, or toners, doing away with the + designation can help you get more points.
For example, going 65 on a coin guarantees decent value(in the blue) between 64 and 66, while going 65+ only guarantees decent value between 65 and 66. It gives a bit more wiggle room if you’re really stumped.[crepidodera] I’ve found that sometimes this doesn’t work. Great strategy for some easier coin types(eg average 63-64 morgan dollars, Franklin halves, etc), but for weird stuff like old proofs, some bust stuff, or toners, doing away with the + designation can help you get more points. For example, going 65 on a coin guarantees decent value(in the blue) between 64 and 66, while going 65+ only guarantees decent value between 65 and 66. It gives a bit more wiggle room if you’re really stumped.- 1
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- crepidodera thanks for the advice it was helpful! I’ve also found grading less coins in one sitting is better for my accuracy as if I grade much more than 50 in a row my accuracy seems to drop off, I just reset statistics graded 38 coins and an over 60% accuracy,[crepidodera] thanks for the advice it was helpful! I’ve also found grading less coins in one sitting is better for my accuracy as if I grade much more than 50 in a row my accuracy seems to drop off, I just reset statistics graded 38 coins and an over 60% accuracy,
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- Zach150 Keep an eye out for any patterns/“metas” that you see. For example:
Toned silver eagles usually get either 67 or 68
Red brown 2 cent pieces usually get 64 or 65
Don’t rely on these too much(use your judgement as the final call) but they can help you go fast/could be good fallback options when you really don’t know.[Zach150] Keep an eye out for any patterns/“metas” that you see. For example: Toned silver eagles usually get either 67 or 68 Red brown 2 cent pieces usually get 64 or 65 Don’t rely on these too much(use your judgement as the final call) but they can help you go fast/could be good fallback options when you really don’t know.- 3
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- Zach150 Another one is that vividly toned franklins tend to go 65 to 66. Often 66 unless there are visible distractions. Just like Richardo said, use your judgement, but I hope that helps.[Zach150] Another one is that vividly toned franklins tend to go 65 to 66. Often 66 unless there are visible distractions. Just like Richardo said, use your judgement, but I hope that helps.
- Samthecoinman I have noticed the franklins that appear shinier in the images tend to be the lower grade ones 63-64+ and the 66 coins tend to look more muted on the pictures[Samthecoinman] I have noticed the franklins that appear shinier in the images tend to be the lower grade ones 63-64+ and the 66 coins tend to look more muted on the pictures
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- How is one supposed to grade thisHow is one supposed to grade this 🤣
6 Comments 0 Shares 21356 ViewsCommenting is disabled.- I got the Disney Snow White witch proof coin 1oz gold lol I took my best guess and got 20 points but it was just a guess cause what was I supposed to reference that off lol.I got the Disney Snow White witch proof coin 1oz gold lol I took my best guess and got 20 points but it was just a guess cause what was I supposed to reference that off lol.
- Good guess tho! That's a tough one.Good guess tho! That's a tough one.
- RyanG vibes grading taken to the next level[RyanG] vibes grading taken to the next level
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- Awesome grading session Evan! It'll be hard to beat 73.8% accuracy.Awesome grading session Evan! It'll be hard to beat 73.8% accuracy.1 Comments 0 Shares 21021 ViewsCommenting is disabled.
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Have fun grading!✨ MORE COINS ADDED!✨ We’ve just added 17,000 new grades to Guess the Grade, bringing the total to 114,300 coins and pushing us past the 100,000 mark. That means even more coins to grade. Keep sharpening your grading skills with our ever-expanding database. Have fun grading!0 Comments 0 Shares 21628 Views
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