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The group is for the discussion of Patriotic Civil War Tokens and storecards from the most turbulent era of our nation.
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- Super quiet around here, yet we have 110 members now!
What do you guys think about spicing things up with some offerings for sale? I dont want the group to turn into the many MyCollect groups where it's dealers pushing their wares everyday, but maybe we could pick a day like Sundays to post available CWTs or want lists? What do you all think?Super quiet around here, yet we have 110 members now! What do you guys think about spicing things up with some offerings for sale? I dont want the group to turn into the many MyCollect groups where it's dealers pushing their wares everyday, but maybe we could pick a day like Sundays to post available CWTs or want lists? What do you all think?7 Comments 0 Shares 1024 Views - This is a bronze medal struck to commemorate the heroic action of George T. Robinson in thwarting the attack on Secretary of State William Seward. This was all a part of the larger conspiracy to assassinate President Lincoln, Vice President Johnson, and Seward. As he lay recovering from illness, Seward was attacked by one of John Wilkes Booth's conspirators, Lewis Powell, who had already stabbed his son. The medal depicts a dramatic knife fight. This sold at Stacks last month, unfortunately not to me.This is a bronze medal struck to commemorate the heroic action of George T. Robinson in thwarting the attack on Secretary of State William Seward. This was all a part of the larger conspiracy to assassinate President Lincoln, Vice President Johnson, and Seward. As he lay recovering from illness, Seward was attacked by one of John Wilkes Booth's conspirators, Lewis Powell, who had already stabbed his son. The medal depicts a dramatic knife fight. This sold at Stacks last month, unfortunately not to me.0 Comments 0 Shares 667 Views
- D. Skidmore's Hotel, Seneca Falls, NY. This is one underrated Civil War token from New York! Wayyyy harder to find than the famous "Good for a Scent" and nearly as popular with the eagle holding a cigar on its beak. This is the plate coin to Fuld's Storecard book, and it's the reddest example I have ever seen of this variety. A blazer! From the Steve Tanenbaum CollectionD. Skidmore's Hotel, Seneca Falls, NY. This is one underrated Civil War token from New York! Wayyyy harder to find than the famous "Good for a Scent" and nearly as popular with the eagle holding a cigar on its beak. This is the plate coin to Fuld's Storecard book, and it's the reddest example I have ever seen of this variety. A blazer! From the Steve Tanenbaum Collection2 Comments 0 Shares 987 ViewsCommenting is disabled.
- Nice token, is it yours? I don't think I ever saw a Skidmore that had even a little red, that one is quite nice.Nice token, is it yours? I don't think I ever saw a Skidmore that had even a little red, that one is quite nice.
- 2024-04-17 11:53:34
- mrpress62 Yes, I just purchased this out of the recent Stacks auction. And I think it went very reasonably. Like $50 more than it sold for 11 years ago. I already own a beautiful example from the Bowers Collection, but Ive been trying to locate this one from the Tanenbaum Estate for years. Youre right, its hard to find them with red[mrpress62] Yes, I just purchased this out of the recent Stacks auction. And I think it went very reasonably. Like $50 more than it sold for 11 years ago. I already own a beautiful example from the Bowers Collection, but Ive been trying to locate this one from the Tanenbaum Estate for years. Youre right, its hard to find them with red
- 2024-04-17 13:51:10
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- This Marshall House token predates the Civil War by 2 years, but is wildly popular. Why? Not only does it use the French Liberty head motif that Robert Lovett, Jr designed for the infamous Confederate Cent, but the Marshall House was the scene of one of the first casualties of the War. On May 24, 1861, Colonel Elmer Ellsworth was killed at the Marshall House in Alexandria, Virginia while removing a Confederate flag there. He was the first Union officer to die in the War. This token would have been used at this establishment during those times.
This example was sold at Stacks recently for the astonishing price of $1320. It is graded PCGS MS63, the only uncirculated example I know of. But is it truly uncirculated?? It is weakly struck for sure, with typical softness on the 9 of the date.
But it seems to these eyes to be a nice AU 58., without the benefit of an in hand observation.This Marshall House token predates the Civil War by 2 years, but is wildly popular. Why? Not only does it use the French Liberty head motif that Robert Lovett, Jr designed for the infamous Confederate Cent, but the Marshall House was the scene of one of the first casualties of the War. On May 24, 1861, Colonel Elmer Ellsworth was killed at the Marshall House in Alexandria, Virginia while removing a Confederate flag there. He was the first Union officer to die in the War. This token would have been used at this establishment during those times. This example was sold at Stacks recently for the astonishing price of $1320. It is graded PCGS MS63, the only uncirculated example I know of. But is it truly uncirculated?? It is weakly struck for sure, with typical softness on the 9 of the date. But it seems to these eyes to be a nice AU 58., without the benefit of an in hand observation.0 Comments 1 Shares 1644 Views - These two tokens came from my great grandfather, a Civil War veteran. He passed down a leather purse with many coins and tokens in it from 1893 through 1894. My dad gave them to me when I was a kid. Here are the two that Todd Pollock (BluCC Photos) just imaged for me.These two tokens came from my great grandfather, a Civil War veteran. He passed down a leather purse with many coins and tokens in it from 1893 through 1894. My dad gave them to me when I was a kid. Here are the two that Todd Pollock (BluCC Photos) just imaged for me.5 Comments 0 Shares 1102 ViewsCommenting is disabled.
- Very nice. It is special when you can cross a collectible between historical and sentimental value. Thanks for postingVery nice. It is special when you can cross a collectible between historical and sentimental value. Thanks for posting
- 2024-04-05 19:57:09
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- Make that 1809 through 1894. Here is the 1809 Half Cent, my oldest coin.Make that 1809 through 1894. Here is the 1809 Half Cent, my oldest coin.
- 2024-04-04 17:41:02
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- opengames - You should post this in the Half Cent Group. I would love for more people to post half cents and half cent information there. Your half cent is a C-3 (R.1) variety. Congrats![opengames] - You should post this in the Half Cent Group. I would love for more people to post half cents and half cent information there. Your half cent is a C-3 (R.1) variety. Congrats!
- 2024-04-09 15:23:37
- NeophyteNumismatist Thanks, will do.[NeophyteNumismatist] Thanks, will do.
- 2024-04-09 17:21:41
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- Another highlight of the sale:
New York. 1863 Edward Schaaf. Fuld-630BK-1do. Rarity-7. Copper-Nickel. Plain Edge. Overstruck on an 1858 Large Letters Flying Eagle Cent.
NGC MS 62. Sold for $1560, a bargain for such a dramatic overstrike.
Another highlight of the sale: New York. 1863 Edward Schaaf. Fuld-630BK-1do. Rarity-7. Copper-Nickel. Plain Edge. Overstruck on an 1858 Large Letters Flying Eagle Cent. NGC MS 62. Sold for $1560, a bargain for such a dramatic overstrike.7 Comments 0 Shares 1628 ViewsCommenting is disabled.- Wow. I would love to own that one.Wow. I would love to own that one.
- 2024-04-09 15:24:53
- great & dramatic/clear overstrike ... I have one of these somewhere.great & dramatic/clear overstrike ... I have one of these somewhere.
- 2024-04-05 14:36:49
- So much to take in....spent a while just absorbing what I was looking at. Love it.So much to take in....spent a while just absorbing what I was looking at. Love it.
- 2024-04-02 21:37:36
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- BenKarr That is the beauty of overstruck coins! Some of them just command attention[BenKarr] That is the beauty of overstruck coins! Some of them just command attention
- 2024-04-02 22:13:03
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- Most overstruck CWT are on Indian Head cents. These are infrequently found on flying eaglesMost overstruck CWT are on Indian Head cents. These are infrequently found on flying eagles
- 2024-04-02 20:17:36
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- DeadCatWaltz This was for his grocery stores right?[DeadCatWaltz] This was for his grocery stores right?
- 2024-04-04 22:59:33
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- This Jefferson Davis "Death to Traitors" medalette went fairly cheap at $2520. DeWitt-C 1861-13.
Was graded NGC MS63. Id love to see it in hand. The NGC photos gave me pause.This Jefferson Davis "Death to Traitors" medalette went fairly cheap at $2520. DeWitt-C 1861-13. Was graded NGC MS63. Id love to see it in hand. The NGC photos gave me pause.3 Comments 0 Shares 890 ViewsCommenting is disabled.- That's one I always wanted to own, just can't get past the prices of these Thow. Most just don't look that great or have problems. But the message does get right to the point Thow.That's one I always wanted to own, just can't get past the prices of these Thow. Most just don't look that great or have problems. But the message does get right to the point Thow.
- 2024-04-09 11:16:47
- mrpress62 I agree. These are struck in silvered brass, and sometimes they are spotty. I couldnt tell if this example was porous, as the NGC photos look worse than the auction house pics[mrpress62] I agree. These are struck in silvered brass, and sometimes they are spotty. I couldnt tell if this example was porous, as the NGC photos look worse than the auction house pics
- 2024-04-09 13:32:14
- 2500 for a nice example is pretty good, though2500 for a nice example is pretty good, though
- 2024-04-09 13:32:39
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- Also from the Stacks highlight reel, here is a medal by John Adams Bolen for the Pioneer Baseball Club, certified AU58 by PCGS. These iconic medals are on fire, sold for $3,360. Not a civil war token, but very, very cool from the period just before the war.
This is thought to be the first depiction of baseball in medallic form.Also from the Stacks highlight reel, here is a medal by John Adams Bolen for the Pioneer Baseball Club, certified AU58 by PCGS. These iconic medals are on fire, sold for $3,360. Not a civil war token, but very, very cool from the period just before the war. This is thought to be the first depiction of baseball in medallic form.8 Comments 0 Shares 1194 ViewsCommenting is disabled.-
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- I bid on it but didn't winI bid on it but didn't win
- 2024-04-08 13:11:10
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- StevenFarrell There's always next time. These things have really increased in price over the years, especially after Neil Musante's book on Bolen medals. The reported mintage is around 125 white metal, and 75 copper. But far fewer exist today[StevenFarrell] There's always next time. These things have really increased in price over the years, especially after Neil Musante's book on Bolen medals. The reported mintage is around 125 white metal, and 75 copper. But far fewer exist today
- 2024-04-08 14:17:37
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- DeadCatWaltz Bolen medals are really a cool area to collect I have a few![DeadCatWaltz] Bolen medals are really a cool area to collect I have a few!
- 2024-04-08 19:55:34
- Anybody win this one?Anybody win this one?
- 2024-04-06 22:34:37
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- DeadCatWaltz I wish!!![DeadCatWaltz] I wish!!!
- 2024-04-08 01:44:30
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- Got a new Civil War Token today at a coin show in KC. A Knickerbocker cent.Got a new Civil War Token today at a coin show in KC. A Knickerbocker cent.4 Comments 0 Shares 709 ViewsCommenting is disabled.
- Iconic design by Bridgens. Good pickupIconic design by Bridgens. Good pickup
- 2024-04-07 17:29:09
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- I looked online for information about this token but couldn’t find much. Can someone educate me about it please?I looked online for information about this token but couldn’t find much. Can someone educate me about it please?
- 2024-04-07 14:18:25
- dotson That is surprising. This is one of the most common of the patriotic CWTs, probably rating R1 or R2 in copper. Struck by William H Bridgens of New York, who also made the "Money Makes the Mare Go" die. Also featuring the gentleman with a three point hat.[dotson] That is surprising. This is one of the most common of the patriotic CWTs, probably rating R1 or R2 in copper. Struck by William H Bridgens of New York, who also made the "Money Makes the Mare Go" die. Also featuring the gentleman with a three point hat.
- 2024-04-07 17:23:59
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- DeadCatWaltz when I googled it pretty much all that came up was ones for sale and little information. Thank you for sharing some info on it.[DeadCatWaltz] when I googled it pretty much all that came up was ones for sale and little information. Thank you for sharing some info on it.
- 2024-04-07 20:16:27
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- this is the one I would have liked to bid on, if someone here won it; good for you, Great token!this is the one I would have liked to bid on, if someone here won it; good for you, Great token!13 Comments 0 Shares 1250 ViewsCommenting is disabled.
- I bid on it and was not successful.I bid on it and was not successful.
- 2024-04-01 18:24:57
- I shot the F-160/218a for a customer this week. I will ask him to post it here.I shot the F-160/218a for a customer this week. I will ask him to post it here.
- 2024-03-31 03:17:40
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- What website did it sell on?What website did it sell on?
- 2024-03-31 02:43:39
- Cogle12 Stacks. These are all from a member's collection that he recently consigned there[Cogle12] Stacks. These are all from a member's collection that he recently consigned there
- 2024-03-31 03:20:33
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- I have both these designs in brass, with America reverse. sure, would have been nice to have all in one silver. Did this come out of the Partrick sale? here are my Brass tokens.I have both these designs in brass, with America reverse. sure, would have been nice to have all in one silver. Did this come out of the Partrick sale? here are my Brass tokens.
- 2024-03-30 09:58:20
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- the otherthe other
- 2024-03-30 10:00:31
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- mrpress62 This is a lovely example, and you should be proud to own this rare combination of dies[mrpress62] This is a lovely example, and you should be proud to own this rare combination of dies
- 2024-03-30 11:08:34
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- This was on my watch list, too. But the app was acting up, and i didnt even bidThis was on my watch list, too. But the app was acting up, and i didnt even bid
- 2024-03-30 02:19:16
- DeadCatWaltz as I told you before, I'm not a computer whiz, so when something like that happens, you just feel hopeless. Some of this stuff, just doesn't come up for sale very often.[DeadCatWaltz] as I told you before, I'm not a computer whiz, so when something like that happens, you just feel hopeless. Some of this stuff, just doesn't come up for sale very often.
- 2024-03-30 10:09:10
- mrpress62 I understand. Opportunity is nore important than money in this field. Some of these tokens appear but once in a lifetime. But I have a feeling alot of these pieces will reappear through dealers at higher premiums, though. So keep an eye out. Just a hunch, but for many of the prices realized there is still "meat left on the bone."[mrpress62] I understand. Opportunity is nore important than money in this field. Some of these tokens appear but once in a lifetime. But I have a feeling alot of these pieces will reappear through dealers at higher premiums, though. So keep an eye out. Just a hunch, but for many of the prices realized there is still "meat left on the bone."
- 2024-03-30 11:07:53
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- Happy Easter to you all! May you all receive some interesting civil war tokens in your basketsHappy Easter to you all! May you all receive some interesting civil war tokens in your baskets0 Comments 1 Shares 1982 Views
- Continuing on with highlights from the Stacks Auction...
Here is one that went for half of what I expected. 1863 Edward Schulze. Fuld-630BO-2fo. Rarity-9. Silver. Reeded Edge. Overstruck on a Spanish colonial Portrait 1 real Sold for $2640. I was the underbidder because of a mishap with the Stacks app!Continuing on with highlights from the Stacks Auction... Here is one that went for half of what I expected. 1863 Edward Schulze. Fuld-630BO-2fo. Rarity-9. Silver. Reeded Edge. Overstruck on a Spanish colonial Portrait 1 real Sold for $2640. I was the underbidder because of a mishap with the Stacks app!4 Comments 0 Shares 1147 ViewsCommenting is disabled.- Stacks app glitched and bid for me in a live auction, on a lot i had no interest in, and i won, and i think overpaid too. Blew my ability to rebid on items i wanted badly, had to let them go to others. I'm leery of going and watching/bidding in their lives now.Stacks app glitched and bid for me in a live auction, on a lot i had no interest in, and i won, and i think overpaid too. Blew my ability to rebid on items i wanted badly, had to let them go to others. I'm leery of going and watching/bidding in their lives now.
- 2024-03-29 17:37:28
- The price was really underwhelming on this exciting piece, previously offered to me at $5,000 (Which it is probably worth.) I think the auction house kind of called unnecessary attention to the PVC, which in my opinion was minimal and can be removed easily.The price was really underwhelming on this exciting piece, previously offered to me at $5,000 (Which it is probably worth.) I think the auction house kind of called unnecessary attention to the PVC, which in my opinion was minimal and can be removed easily.
- 2024-03-29 15:37:12
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- DeadCatWaltz prob should have had acetone bath before auction.[DeadCatWaltz] prob should have had acetone bath before auction.
- 2024-03-29 17:38:28
- SilverAge3 its been sitting in NGC slab for more than a decade[SilverAge3] its been sitting in NGC slab for more than a decade
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- Getting awfully quiet around here, folks...Lets spotlight some of the highlights of the last exonumia sale! Start an individual thread for each token you'd like to shine a light on. You dont have to own it, this is just a discussion. Here is the J. Diehl, Undertaker CWT struck on an 1855 Seated Liberty Quarter. Super rare, 2 knownGetting awfully quiet around here, folks...Lets spotlight some of the highlights of the last exonumia sale! Start an individual thread for each token you'd like to shine a light on. You dont have to own it, this is just a discussion. Here is the J. Diehl, Undertaker CWT struck on an 1855 Seated Liberty Quarter. Super rare, 2 known5 Comments 0 Shares 1345 ViewsCommenting is disabled.
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- I love how the eagle's beak and wing wrap around the Indian's eye. The breast feathers look to be a part of his beard! So very coolI love how the eagle's beak and wing wrap around the Indian's eye. The breast feathers look to be a part of his beard! So very cool
- 2024-03-27 23:31:21
- The undertype is simply amazing. I think this was a bargain at $7200. CWT overstrikes on 25c are the rarest of the rare and will typically run 5 figures when they come up for sale (which is infrequently to say the least.) I have only tracked 5 or 6 varieties on quarters for the entire series!The undertype is simply amazing. I think this was a bargain at $7200. CWT overstrikes on 25c are the rarest of the rare and will typically run 5 figures when they come up for sale (which is infrequently to say the least.) I have only tracked 5 or 6 varieties on quarters for the entire series!
- 2024-03-27 23:29:53
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- Lets see some of those Windycity auction wins. I did not participate as I received some concerning news at the doctors last week. Will be investing in medical tests instead of tokens for a while, out of the game but I'm still on the sidelines. Let's see what you got.Lets see some of those Windycity auction wins. I did not participate as I received some concerning news at the doctors last week. Will be investing in medical tests instead of tokens for a while, out of the game but I'm still on the sidelines. Let's see what you got.9 Comments 0 Shares 1098 ViewsCommenting is disabled.
- I miss them already!!!I miss them already!!!
- 2024-03-28 11:15:41
- Mullencoins You really ripped the band aid off, all at one time. That's got to hurt.[Mullencoins] You really ripped the band aid off, all at one time. That's got to hurt.
- 2024-03-28 12:23:17
- Did anyone catch the J. Diehl CWT struck on a Seated Liberty Quarter? $7200, though I thought it may have sold higher.Did anyone catch the J. Diehl CWT struck on a Seated Liberty Quarter? $7200, though I thought it may have sold higher.
- 2024-03-27 23:24:39
- I won the McClellan silver and bid on 4 others.I won the McClellan silver and bid on 4 others.
- 2024-03-27 20:29:07
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- jcemet123 Congrats! Any silver CWT is a real prize[jcemet123] Congrats! Any silver CWT is a real prize
- 2024-03-27 23:19:58
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- I was not fortunate enough to bring home any Mullencoins "WindyCity" tokens, but it was fun watching them find new homes. The I Am Ready in silver was a highlight that went very reasonably for a lucky bidderI was not fortunate enough to bring home any Mullencoins "WindyCity" tokens, but it was fun watching them find new homes. The I Am Ready in silver was a highlight that went very reasonably for a lucky bidder
- 2024-03-27 18:57:04
- DeadCatWaltz what was the hammer on I Am Ready ?[DeadCatWaltz] what was the hammer on I Am Ready ?
- 2024-03-27 20:30:00
- jcemet123 $4320[jcemet123] $4320
- 2024-03-27 20:43:47
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- To keep the discussion going, here is another neat design from WK Lanphear of Cincinnati. His iconic sea monster die paired with a butcher's advertising. Not mine, but a photo from the Bowers Collection
Have a good morning!To keep the discussion going, here is another neat design from WK Lanphear of Cincinnati. His iconic sea monster die paired with a butcher's advertising. Not mine, but a photo from the Bowers Collection Have a good morning!3 Comments 0 Shares 1343 ViewsCommenting is disabled.-
- Meat Store. I like the sound of that!Meat Store. I like the sound of that!
- 2024-03-20 19:00:08
- The Hippocampus! Always popular. Patriotic die 185B.The Hippocampus! Always popular. Patriotic die 185B.
- 2024-03-20 18:58:18
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The group is a little slow. I sometimes wonder if its too heavy with posts about super high end coins that are out of reach for many collectors. That might keep those with a new imperfect but interesting $25 find at a local coin shop from posting.