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The group is for the discussion of Patriotic Civil War Tokens and storecards from the most turbulent era of our nation.
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- Could use a little help with attribution on this token. Stereoscopic Pictures Byron Ohio - Die marriage has me stumped.Could use a little help with attribution on this token. Stereoscopic Pictures Byron Ohio - Die marriage has me stumped.2 Comments 0 Shares 378 ViewsPlease log in to like, share and comment!Commenting is disabled.
- mrpress62OH-165-CY-113a R-8 formerly known as OH-100-4OH-165-CY-113a R-8 formerly known as OH-100-4
- Mullencoinsmrpress62 Thanks, interesting that the reverse anchor is a 45 degree rotated reverse. (Not shown in images)[mrpress62] Thanks, interesting that the reverse anchor is a 45 degree rotated reverse. (Not shown in images)
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- One more new purchase. The broken die and zigzag marking intrigued me enough that I ended up purchasing it. Not really sure what’s going on there. Almost looks like a clash mark from something resembling an Indian head cent headdress but not really. Anybody have any ideas?One more new purchase. The broken die and zigzag marking intrigued me enough that I ended up purchasing it. Not really sure what’s going on there. Almost looks like a clash mark from something resembling an Indian head cent headdress but not really. Anybody have any ideas?2 Comments 0 Shares 447 ViewsCommenting is disabled.
- This is what I like about civil war tokens, you can have the same token in different die states, and each is more interesting than the last. Nice token.This is what I like about civil war tokens, you can have the same token in different die states, and each is more interesting than the last. Nice token.
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- I did a google search on Boas Bros Bakers Civil War Token and the first thing I found was this token on eBay, so I think I answered my own question
I did a google search on Boas Bros Bakers Civil War Token and the first thing I found was this token on eBay, so I think I answered my own question -
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- This is the first token I've gotten in a few months, and It's a beauty. It's an R-9 and in hand I think 64 or 65 Rb. I like that the company is still in business today. Just a little darker than photo.This is the first token I've gotten in a few months, and It's a beauty. It's an R-9 and in hand I think 64 or 65 Rb. I like that the company is still in business today. Just a little darker than photo.4 Comments 0 Shares 810 ViewsCommenting is disabled.
- Very nice piece. Rarity, history, a d eye appeal. How can you go wrong there?Very nice piece. Rarity, history, a d eye appeal. How can you go wrong there?
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- Amazing the company is still around. Cant be many like that.Amazing the company is still around. Cant be many like that.
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- New Purchase. I like this one, it’s common but has lots of characterNew Purchase. I like this one, it’s common but has lots of character7 Comments 0 Shares 952 ViewsCommenting is disabled.
- I always liked tokens with character and color and yours has both, verry nice pickup.I always liked tokens with character and color and yours has both, verry nice pickup.
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- Nice. Looks like maybe two parallel die cracks, giving it the allearance of laminationNice. Looks like maybe two parallel die cracks, giving it the allearance of lamination
- DeadCatWaltz yes, I think you’re right 🏼[DeadCatWaltz] yes, I think you’re right 👍🏼
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- Great look. What is happening behind the cap, toning or planchet issue?Great look. What is happening behind the cap, toning or planchet issue?
- ToddPollock I’m not really sure, but I noticed that another seller of CWT’s has one that has the same thing going on, so it must be a variety. Probably a shattered die. Here’s a picture of the other sellers one. I bid on that one too, thought it might be nice to have two of them, but I decided to just stick with the one I already purchased so I’m letting the one on eBay go to someone else.[ToddPollock] I’m not really sure, but I noticed that another seller of CWT’s has one that has the same thing going on, so it must be a variety. Probably a shattered die. Here’s a picture of the other sellers one. I bid on that one too, thought it might be nice to have two of them, but I decided to just stick with the one I already purchased so I’m letting the one on eBay go to someone else.
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- I also just found this one on eBay that appears to be an earlier die state of the same variety before it totally shattered. This one had a low enough “buy it now” price that I went ahead and purchased it. I also like their presentation in a homemade slab with a stamp, but not sure if the token is somehow related to ShilohI also just found this one on eBay that appears to be an earlier die state of the same variety before it totally shattered. This one had a low enough “buy it now” price that I went ahead and purchased it. I also like their presentation in a homemade slab with a stamp, but not sure if the token is somehow related to Shiloh
- Closeup of the earlier die state token made quickly from the auction picturesCloseup of the earlier die state token made quickly from the auction pictures
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- Super quiet around here, yet we have 110 members now!
What do you guys think about spicing things up with some offerings for sale? I dont want the group to turn into the many MyCollect groups where it's dealers pushing their wares everyday, but maybe we could pick a day like Sundays to post available CWTs or want lists? What do you all think?Super quiet around here, yet we have 110 members now! What do you guys think about spicing things up with some offerings for sale? I dont want the group to turn into the many MyCollect groups where it's dealers pushing their wares everyday, but maybe we could pick a day like Sundays to post available CWTs or want lists? What do you all think?7 Comments 0 Shares 1734 ViewsCommenting is disabled.- I see nothing wrong with selling one day per week.
The group is a little slow. I sometimes wonder if its too heavy with posts about super high end coins that are out of reach for many collectors. That might keep those with a new imperfect but interesting $25 find at a local coin shop from posting.I see nothing wrong with selling one day per week. The group is a little slow. I sometimes wonder if its too heavy with posts about super high end coins that are out of reach for many collectors. That might keep those with a new imperfect but interesting $25 find at a local coin shop from posting. - Unfortunately, there is little to no participation on this site. It has potential, but people must participate to make it work. This is key to any forum. Im just not seeing it here. Let me know if I'm wrongUnfortunately, there is little to no participation on this site. It has potential, but people must participate to make it work. This is key to any forum. Im just not seeing it here. Let me know if I'm wrong
- DeadCatWaltz You're not wrong. I was excited when I first saw this site launch, but it is dying on the vine. I guess people just want to utilize message boards instead.[DeadCatWaltz] You're not wrong. I was excited when I first saw this site launch, but it is dying on the vine. I guess people just want to utilize message boards instead.
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- Well, we have one person onboard! Seriously, let me know guys if people are interested. We could do like Sunday night listings if there is interest. It just seems incredibly slow on this site now.Well, we have one person onboard! 😆 Seriously, let me know guys if people are interested. We could do like Sunday night listings if there is interest. It just seems incredibly slow on this site now.
- DeadCatWaltz Works for me[DeadCatWaltz] Works for me
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- This is a bronze medal struck to commemorate the heroic action of George T. Robinson in thwarting the attack on Secretary of State William Seward. This was all a part of the larger conspiracy to assassinate President Lincoln, Vice President Johnson, and Seward. As he lay recovering from illness, Seward was attacked by one of John Wilkes Booth's conspirators, Lewis Powell, who had already stabbed his son. The medal depicts a dramatic knife fight. This sold at Stacks last month, unfortunately not to me.This is a bronze medal struck to commemorate the heroic action of George T. Robinson in thwarting the attack on Secretary of State William Seward. This was all a part of the larger conspiracy to assassinate President Lincoln, Vice President Johnson, and Seward. As he lay recovering from illness, Seward was attacked by one of John Wilkes Booth's conspirators, Lewis Powell, who had already stabbed his son. The medal depicts a dramatic knife fight. This sold at Stacks last month, unfortunately not to me.0 Comments 0 Shares 1362 Views
- D. Skidmore's Hotel, Seneca Falls, NY. This is one underrated Civil War token from New York! Wayyyy harder to find than the famous "Good for a Scent" and nearly as popular with the eagle holding a cigar on its beak. This is the plate coin to Fuld's Storecard book, and it's the reddest example I have ever seen of this variety. A blazer! From the Steve Tanenbaum CollectionD. Skidmore's Hotel, Seneca Falls, NY. This is one underrated Civil War token from New York! Wayyyy harder to find than the famous "Good for a Scent" and nearly as popular with the eagle holding a cigar on its beak. This is the plate coin to Fuld's Storecard book, and it's the reddest example I have ever seen of this variety. A blazer! From the Steve Tanenbaum Collection2 Comments 0 Shares 1683 ViewsCommenting is disabled.
- Nice token, is it yours? I don't think I ever saw a Skidmore that had even a little red, that one is quite nice.Nice token, is it yours? I don't think I ever saw a Skidmore that had even a little red, that one is quite nice.
- mrpress62 Yes, I just purchased this out of the recent Stacks auction. And I think it went very reasonably. Like $50 more than it sold for 11 years ago. I already own a beautiful example from the Bowers Collection, but Ive been trying to locate this one from the Tanenbaum Estate for years. Youre right, its hard to find them with red[mrpress62] Yes, I just purchased this out of the recent Stacks auction. And I think it went very reasonably. Like $50 more than it sold for 11 years ago. I already own a beautiful example from the Bowers Collection, but Ive been trying to locate this one from the Tanenbaum Estate for years. Youre right, its hard to find them with red
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- This Marshall House token predates the Civil War by 2 years, but is wildly popular. Why? Not only does it use the French Liberty head motif that Robert Lovett, Jr designed for the infamous Confederate Cent, but the Marshall House was the scene of one of the first casualties of the War. On May 24, 1861, Colonel Elmer Ellsworth was killed at the Marshall House in Alexandria, Virginia while removing a Confederate flag there. He was the first Union officer to die in the War. This token would have been used at this establishment during those times.
This example was sold at Stacks recently for the astonishing price of $1320. It is graded PCGS MS63, the only uncirculated example I know of. But is it truly uncirculated?? It is weakly struck for sure, with typical softness on the 9 of the date.
But it seems to these eyes to be a nice AU 58., without the benefit of an in hand observation.This Marshall House token predates the Civil War by 2 years, but is wildly popular. Why? Not only does it use the French Liberty head motif that Robert Lovett, Jr designed for the infamous Confederate Cent, but the Marshall House was the scene of one of the first casualties of the War. On May 24, 1861, Colonel Elmer Ellsworth was killed at the Marshall House in Alexandria, Virginia while removing a Confederate flag there. He was the first Union officer to die in the War. This token would have been used at this establishment during those times. This example was sold at Stacks recently for the astonishing price of $1320. It is graded PCGS MS63, the only uncirculated example I know of. But is it truly uncirculated?? It is weakly struck for sure, with typical softness on the 9 of the date. But it seems to these eyes to be a nice AU 58., without the benefit of an in hand observation.0 Comments 1 Shares 2620 Views - These two tokens came from my great grandfather, a Civil War veteran. He passed down a leather purse with many coins and tokens in it from 1893 through 1894. My dad gave them to me when I was a kid. Here are the two that Todd Pollock (BluCC Photos) just imaged for me.These two tokens came from my great grandfather, a Civil War veteran. He passed down a leather purse with many coins and tokens in it from 1893 through 1894. My dad gave them to me when I was a kid. Here are the two that Todd Pollock (BluCC Photos) just imaged for me.5 Comments 0 Shares 1626 ViewsCommenting is disabled.
- Very nice. It is special when you can cross a collectible between historical and sentimental value. Thanks for postingVery nice. It is special when you can cross a collectible between historical and sentimental value. Thanks for posting
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- Make that 1809 through 1894. Here is the 1809 Half Cent, my oldest coin.Make that 1809 through 1894. Here is the 1809 Half Cent, my oldest coin.
- opengames - You should post this in the Half Cent Group. I would love for more people to post half cents and half cent information there. Your half cent is a C-3 (R.1) variety. Congrats![opengames] - You should post this in the Half Cent Group. I would love for more people to post half cents and half cent information there. Your half cent is a C-3 (R.1) variety. Congrats!
- NeophyteNumismatist Thanks, will do.[NeophyteNumismatist] Thanks, will do.
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- Another highlight of the sale:
New York. 1863 Edward Schaaf. Fuld-630BK-1do. Rarity-7. Copper-Nickel. Plain Edge. Overstruck on an 1858 Large Letters Flying Eagle Cent.
NGC MS 62. Sold for $1560, a bargain for such a dramatic overstrike.
Another highlight of the sale: New York. 1863 Edward Schaaf. Fuld-630BK-1do. Rarity-7. Copper-Nickel. Plain Edge. Overstruck on an 1858 Large Letters Flying Eagle Cent. NGC MS 62. Sold for $1560, a bargain for such a dramatic overstrike.7 Comments 0 Shares 2315 ViewsCommenting is disabled.-
- great & dramatic/clear overstrike ... I have one of these somewhere.great & dramatic/clear overstrike ... I have one of these somewhere.
- So much to take in....spent a while just absorbing what I was looking at. Love it.So much to take in....spent a while just absorbing what I was looking at. Love it.
- BenKarr That is the beauty of overstruck coins! Some of them just command attention[BenKarr] That is the beauty of overstruck coins! Some of them just command attention
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- Most overstruck CWT are on Indian Head cents. These are infrequently found on flying eaglesMost overstruck CWT are on Indian Head cents. These are infrequently found on flying eagles
- DeadCatWaltz This was for his grocery stores right?[DeadCatWaltz] This was for his grocery stores right?
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- This Jefferson Davis "Death to Traitors" medalette went fairly cheap at $2520. DeWitt-C 1861-13.
Was graded NGC MS63. Id love to see it in hand. The NGC photos gave me pause.This Jefferson Davis "Death to Traitors" medalette went fairly cheap at $2520. DeWitt-C 1861-13. Was graded NGC MS63. Id love to see it in hand. The NGC photos gave me pause.3 Comments 0 Shares 1568 ViewsCommenting is disabled.- That's one I always wanted to own, just can't get past the prices of these Thow. Most just don't look that great or have problems. But the message does get right to the point Thow.That's one I always wanted to own, just can't get past the prices of these Thow. Most just don't look that great or have problems. But the message does get right to the point Thow.
- mrpress62 I agree. These are struck in silvered brass, and sometimes they are spotty. I couldnt tell if this example was porous, as the NGC photos look worse than the auction house pics[mrpress62] I agree. These are struck in silvered brass, and sometimes they are spotty. I couldnt tell if this example was porous, as the NGC photos look worse than the auction house pics
- 2500 for a nice example is pretty good, though2500 for a nice example is pretty good, though
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- Also from the Stacks highlight reel, here is a medal by John Adams Bolen for the Pioneer Baseball Club, certified AU58 by PCGS. These iconic medals are on fire, sold for $3,360. Not a civil war token, but very, very cool from the period just before the war.
This is thought to be the first depiction of baseball in medallic form.Also from the Stacks highlight reel, here is a medal by John Adams Bolen for the Pioneer Baseball Club, certified AU58 by PCGS. These iconic medals are on fire, sold for $3,360. Not a civil war token, but very, very cool from the period just before the war. This is thought to be the first depiction of baseball in medallic form.8 Comments 0 Shares 1868 ViewsCommenting is disabled.-
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- I bid on it but didn't winI bid on it but didn't win
- StevenFarrell There's always next time. These things have really increased in price over the years, especially after Neil Musante's book on Bolen medals. The reported mintage is around 125 white metal, and 75 copper. But far fewer exist today[StevenFarrell] There's always next time. These things have really increased in price over the years, especially after Neil Musante's book on Bolen medals. The reported mintage is around 125 white metal, and 75 copper. But far fewer exist today
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- DeadCatWaltz Bolen medals are really a cool area to collect I have a few![DeadCatWaltz] Bolen medals are really a cool area to collect I have a few!
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- Got a new Civil War Token today at a coin show in KC. A Knickerbocker cent.Got a new Civil War Token today at a coin show in KC. A Knickerbocker cent.4 Comments 0 Shares 1247 ViewsCommenting is disabled.
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- I looked online for information about this token but couldn’t find much. Can someone educate me about it please?I looked online for information about this token but couldn’t find much. Can someone educate me about it please?
- dotson That is surprising. This is one of the most common of the patriotic CWTs, probably rating R1 or R2 in copper. Struck by William H Bridgens of New York, who also made the "Money Makes the Mare Go" die. Also featuring the gentleman with a three point hat.[dotson] That is surprising. This is one of the most common of the patriotic CWTs, probably rating R1 or R2 in copper. Struck by William H Bridgens of New York, who also made the "Money Makes the Mare Go" die. Also featuring the gentleman with a three point hat.
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- DeadCatWaltz when I googled it pretty much all that came up was ones for sale and little information. Thank you for sharing some info on it.[DeadCatWaltz] when I googled it pretty much all that came up was ones for sale and little information. Thank you for sharing some info on it.
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- this is the one I would have liked to bid on, if someone here won it; good for you, Great token!this is the one I would have liked to bid on, if someone here won it; good for you, Great token!13 Comments 0 Shares 1741 ViewsCommenting is disabled.
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- I shot the F-160/218a for a customer this week. I will ask him to post it here.I shot the F-160/218a for a customer this week. I will ask him to post it here.
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- What website did it sell on?What website did it sell on?
- Cogle12 Stacks. These are all from a member's collection that he recently consigned there[Cogle12] Stacks. These are all from a member's collection that he recently consigned there
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- I have both these designs in brass, with America reverse. sure, would have been nice to have all in one silver. Did this come out of the Partrick sale? here are my Brass tokens.I have both these designs in brass, with America reverse. sure, would have been nice to have all in one silver. Did this come out of the Partrick sale? here are my Brass tokens.
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- mrpress62 This is a lovely example, and you should be proud to own this rare combination of dies[mrpress62] This is a lovely example, and you should be proud to own this rare combination of dies
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- This was on my watch list, too. But the app was acting up, and i didnt even bidThis was on my watch list, too. But the app was acting up, and i didnt even bid
- DeadCatWaltz as I told you before, I'm not a computer whiz, so when something like that happens, you just feel hopeless. Some of this stuff, just doesn't come up for sale very often.[DeadCatWaltz] as I told you before, I'm not a computer whiz, so when something like that happens, you just feel hopeless. Some of this stuff, just doesn't come up for sale very often.
- mrpress62 I understand. Opportunity is nore important than money in this field. Some of these tokens appear but once in a lifetime. But I have a feeling alot of these pieces will reappear through dealers at higher premiums, though. So keep an eye out. Just a hunch, but for many of the prices realized there is still "meat left on the bone."[mrpress62] I understand. Opportunity is nore important than money in this field. Some of these tokens appear but once in a lifetime. But I have a feeling alot of these pieces will reappear through dealers at higher premiums, though. So keep an eye out. Just a hunch, but for many of the prices realized there is still "meat left on the bone."
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